SGC Refusal

[Polchraine]

Talking with an acquaintance at a clay shoot earlier today, it turns out that he has been refused an SGC.

I asked if he knew why he was refused and he does not. He asked the FEO and was told that they do not have to tell him anything.

So, what is the legal position: Should the FEO tell him why the permission was refused and if so, how much detail should be provided.

[M99]

A refusal must be in writing and must state why! as there is a power to challenge through the courts. A refusal is actually quite a big thing and will be signed by the Chief Constable.

Mike

[Christel]

Absolutely in writing, there is an appeal process...

[Blu]

I'm puzzled as to why his FEO would tell him such a thing if indeed as Mike says it must be in writing with a reason given.

Blu

[Polchraine]

Thanks, I wanted to see if I was correct.

My understanding was the similar and I did advise him that he should be asking for a written, detailed explanation of why he has been refused and that it must come from (or at least be signed by) a senior officer.

He can see no reason for refusal except a minor incident about 25-30 years back when he was charged after some minor trouble but it was eventually dropped. Five to ten years - I might understand but 25 years back and nothing since there can be no grounds.

[M99]

My money is on it being medical and the police not wanting to disclose it - they have no choice if it has in fact been refused.

[FarmerSim]

Some time ago, when I applied and volunteered all the medical "stuff" that goes with my MD, I was told that if I was refused, it would be explained to me in writing, or that I would be advised to withdraw the application, (and save the money), and the difference is obviously important.

Whilst I know all forces seem to interpret the rules differrently, it does seem strange that there would any "secrecy", especially so, given the right of appeal.

If it is a medical issue, and you think I could help, feel free to PM me.

ATB

Sim

[Polchraine]

Next time I see him, I will be re-iterating the fact that he must be given the reasons, in writing. If he then wants to tell me why, I can always come back for advice.

I do not know him that well but he is calm natured, even when really annoyed he hardly shows it. His job requires reasonable patience and he deals with the upper echelons of society on a daily basis. No recent trouble with the police - not even a speeding ticket.

There is something very odd about it.

[Sim G]

I do not know him that well but he is calm natured, even when really annoyed he hardly shows it. His job requires reasonable patience and he deals with the upper echelons of society on a daily basis. No recent trouble with the police - not even a speeding ticket.

Either mad or a problem with drink or drugs that has required GP intervention....

[Sim G]

..... or domestic violence.