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Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:11 pm
by Tower75
Hi all.
Now I know nothing about shotguns, I mean, I know what a shotgun is and how to half-use one, but that's it.
I was just curious, I know that you can own a self-loading shotgun if it's a Section 1 "firearm", but what I'm not sure on is; are the self-loading "firearm" shotguns we're allowed restricted to 12 bore only?
Don't worry, I have no desire to try and get my hands on a self-loading 4-bore or anything. Just curious is all.
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:30 pm
by kennyc
to the best of my knowledge you can own a semi auto shotgun as long as it is limited to 3 cartridge capacity, and they are available in several gauges, 12. 410 etc, for more than 3 carts you need to apply for an FAC slot as they are section 1
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:40 am
by Sim G
Semi shotguns come in both S1 and S2 flavours. As for bore size, whatever is available....... (as long as it doesn't exceed 2 inches on S2).
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:58 am
by saddler
Self-loading shotguns are available in calibres from 410 to 10-bore...
Which licence they come on depends on cartridge capacity. More than 2 cartridges in the magazine puts them on an FAC.
Either version MUST have a 24" barrel as minimum...or the gun becomes Section 5.
Another anomaly = you can legally use a Section 2 shotgun that belongs to someone else; it is illegal to use a Section 1 shotgun that is not on your own FAC.
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:14 am
by Michael Sproul
saddler wrote:Another anomaly = you can legally use a Section 2 shotgun that belongs to someone else; it is illegal to use a Section 1 shotgun that is not on your own FAC.
Saddler, does that also stand for club activities?
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:50 am
by M99
Michael Sproul wrote:saddler wrote:Another anomaly = you can legally use a Section 2 shotgun that belongs to someone else; it is illegal to use a Section 1 shotgun that is not on your own FAC.
Saddler, does that also stand for club activities?
Yes it does - same for LBP
Mike
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:50 am
by M99
Michael Sproul wrote:saddler wrote:Another anomaly = you can legally use a Section 2 shotgun that belongs to someone else; it is illegal to use a Section 1 shotgun that is not on your own FAC.
Saddler, does that also stand for club activities?
Yes it does - same for LBP
Mike
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:37 pm
by AHPP
The LBP thing is all b0llocks. They're over 300mm/600mm and that's that.
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:41 pm
by saddler
AHPP wrote:The LBP thing is all b0llocks. They're over 300mm/600mm and that's that.
Same could be said about a lot of laws, but the fact remains that under current UK law you are not allowed to use a LBP, or a S.1 s/g, if they are not on your own FAC
Hence the recent Alan Westlake "club carbine", which has Home Office approval...nothing more than a LBP with a removable stock.
Re: Self-loading Guns of Shot
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:42 pm
by AHPP
Not the law. Police trying to make the law up.
Don't belive me? Check the statute books.
Still don't believe me? Ask a solicitor to walk you through it.