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FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:25 am
by Polchraine
My new certificates arrived this morning - they are now A5 size rather than te previous A4. Text is smaller and Chief Office signature is miniscule. Now need to find a new size wallet to hold them!



And even though they are full vetted Police/Government issued documents, they are not acceptable as Proof of ID for elections! Not that I would want to show mine there, but there is no reason why they should not be - and compared to a bus pass have way more proof attached.

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 3:44 pm
by PeterN
Perhaps they don't want random people to know who has guns and at what address which they would if you showed your FAC/SGC as proof of identity.
Regards
Peter.

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:02 pm
by Plumose
When I worked in a second hand computer shop they were on the list of allowed ID we could accept as proof of identity.
When a copper came in to sell some bits it turned out warrant cards weren't on the list, we had a new list faxed through a couple of days later by the local cop shop

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:41 pm
by Dark Skies
Polchraine wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 11:25 am My new certificates arrived this morning - they are now A5 size rather than te previous A4. Text is smaller and Chief Office signature is miniscule. Now need to find a new size wallet to hold them ...
Must be a local to you thing. Just had my renewals arrive for FAC / SGC and BP in the usual A4 format.

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:13 am
by davidh195
Northants have been A5 for a number of years to save money, they would save more if they did not have to keep reprinting them due to mistakes.
Mind you they have just paid the chief constable over £100,000.00 while on suspension before he was sacked.

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:23 am
by Pete
Yes, and now try writing a name and address in the postage stamp sized box provided......bloody ridiculous...

Pete

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:58 am
by Blackstuff
Sounds like this is something everyone will have to look forward to(!) troutslapping

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:20 am
by 20series
Northants have been using those for the last couple of years...

Alan

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:26 am
by Pippin89
I got my variation back yesterday (3 working day, thank you Sussex!) and it was still A4. I assume they are using up A4 paper and will go to A5 when its all gone. Not looking forward to that. Lets just have an RFID photo card that links to an electronic database!

Re: FACs & SGCs have shrunk.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 9:17 am
by Polchraine
Pippin89 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:26 am I got my variation back yesterday (3 working day, thank you Sussex!) and it was still A4. I assume they are using up A4 paper and will go to A5 when its all gone. Not looking forward to that. Lets just have an RFID photo card that links to an electronic database!
I've put that forward through various channels - ignored.

It would be much easier for the police - submit a variation on line, they change the data base and email you back with a .pdf of approved holdings. Couple of issue would be with dealers - how could they read the card without investment? Or how would a private face to face sale work?