New security restrictions

[targetman]

I have been advised by my FEO that new security restrictions have been introduced and are now "Legislative"..It relates to the number of firearms held and the security required if that number is 12 or over, in which case security requirement is that a monitored alarm system has to be installed. On that basis I have been refused a variation as I do have more than 12.

Anybody else had this info? Anybody any idea on the number of thefts of Sec1 firearms from private houses in recent years? Anybody heard of the usual scrotes shooting each other in our city streets with Martini Henrys or SMLEs?

For me this means breaking up a collection built up over nearly 50 years as I will not install a pointless monitored alarm system which statically does not prevent break-ins.

I now have 18 months in which to dispose of most of my collection, in fact I have decided to give up shooting. Increasing prices, non availability of reloading components etc., etc., ....all have an effect.

Targetman

[X2001xr]

Did they commit that in writing?

I can't recall seeing any legislation on the number of firearms but didn't some extra steps need to be taken if a HME firearm is present. Not sure if that applies to your situation.

[X2001xr]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... y-handbook

this is guidance on storing and transporting firearms.

[targetman]

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... l_2020.pdf

50 pages of Home Office gobbledegook....bought down to basics:-

Level 1

➢ A requirement that the firearms are to be kept in a secure gun cabinet that meets the

relevant security standards (that is, BS7558).

➢ Specialist multi-locking systems for exit doors will be secured by a deadlock. Individuals

should seek advice from manufacturers for the appropriate locking system.

➢ All ground floor windows will have suitable locks installed.



Level 2

➢ The multipoint locks and deadlocks for final exit doors will need to be to BS3621 or

equivalent.

➢ Not only ground floor windows but windows accessible from flat roofs will need to have

a casement-to-frame self-latching or key operated lock.

➢ Installation of an audible intruder alarm for the whole premises.

Level 3

➢ All of the above, as well as the ammunition and any easily removable component parts

being stored in separate cabinets to the firearm itself.

➢ In some instances, a requirement to store the firearm in a dedicated and secure gun

room, if cabinets with individual gun locks do not suffice.

➢ Installation of an intruder alarm that alerts the police in the event of a burglary.

[the running man]

They was on about this 10 years ago,I don't know ow itmf it's actual law now or just force policy?

[targetman]

I was told that it is now "legislative" may not be a law passed by Parliament but none the less the Police will enforce it.

[the running man]

I know avon and somerset have insisted on it for a good 10 years plus now.

[the running man]

Targetman I will just add, that the term monitored alarm needn't be expensive,just to the letter of the law,there are lots of off the shelf DIY systems one can get. A monitorerd alarm does not have to be a full re wire of the house with trunking everywhere, I would look into it,you may get away with one of the ring systems,or a couple of the doorbells dotted around.

[DanTheMan]

Also "just up the road from Bisley" and just gone through renewal. DIY monitored alarm perfectly acceptable, infact I would rather know myself asap if someone was breaking in and having a Ring camera is also good for knowing what's happening around the home. For the sake of a few quid and peace of mind I would increase your security....

[Rarms]

Also "just up the road from Bisley" and just gone through renewal. DIY monitored alarm perfectly acceptable, infact I would rather know myself asap if someone was breaking in and having a Ring camera is also good for knowing what's happening around the home. For the sake of a few quid and peace of mind I would increase your security....

This is the sensible approach. I installed one a few years back and on the odd occasion I trigger it accidentally it does what it says on the tin!