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The NRA are holding a survey into the use of hand loaded ammunition. That can not be good sounds ominous.

Alpha1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 7:34 pm The NRA are holding a survey into the use of hand loaded ammunition. That can not be good sounds ominous.

There's been a few incidents with hand loaded ammo in recent times, hence the various email warnings being sent out from NRA in recent months.

Yeh I was a bit dubious when it came in, I suggest they are working out how many people using Bisley and other MOD ranges will be screwed if they ban Home Loads.

Alan

20series wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 8:11 pm Yeh I was a bit dubious when it came in, I suggest they are working out how many people using Bisley and other MOD ranges will be screwed if they ban Home Loads.

The rumour is that its the MOD that might be pushing for banning homeloads on MOD ranges.

And then the vast majority of civilian full-bore rifle shooting will cease…

Let's hope all re-loaders take the trouble to reply, then.

Pete

I have just completed the survey. The calibre tick list is a bit short. I had to add 16 others.

"This will help inform the development of training, policy and procedures designed to promote and safeguard hand loading."

It looks like they are Working up to making completing a hand loading course a compulsory condition to use hand loads on MOD ranges and at Bisley.
Regards
Peter.

Why is it when I receive any thing like this from supposedly my National body I get an uneasy feeling and think this is not going to turn out well.

Look at it this way. I believe about 140 clubs rely on the use of MOD ranges.
The MOD dont understand anything other than 9mm 5.56 and 7.62 that comes prepackaged.
The MOD really dont care for handloaded ammunition or even need to understand it.
Without doubt there are folk handloading who shouldnt be.
If you lost all access to MOD ranges because one of your clubmates blew up a gun and injured someone how would you feel about that?
No smoke without fire perhaps.

Whilst I agree with the above as to the MoD ignorance driving this the NRA's performance in dealing with these threats just seems to always be seen as a crass income generating opportunity for the NRA. It ticks a box and and no doubt Mercers performance related pay will be enhanced by such activities. Just look at the duplicate RCO courses they are now running, take a course before you can take the course.

If it does go this way then 'twill be interesting to see what "qualifications" will be looked for in the people who design the course and then go on to teach it. What bench marks will be used? Will casting bullets be included (lord alone I hope not).

Just wait 'till the insurance vultures get a hold of this and it looks as though will be come a necessity for all clubs.

Just another nail in the coffin of civilian use of MoD ranges, this has been on the cards for while now and I am just glad that I have options for my shooting other than on MoD ranges, there use is getting more and more problematical anyway so no loss for me in any case.

As has been said the vast majority of rounds used by civilians on MoD ranges will be home loads. Accidents notwithstanding if those numbers are put against the total number of rounds fired then statistically it must surely be seen as a low risk activity. Also I suspect, from observation, that many of the accidents in the past happened to seasoned handloaders who just made an error. This will still happen regardless of whether you have sat a course or not. To err is human and 'tis impossible to make any activity totally risk free.

I wonder how many events have happened to have this surfacing now

Bloody bean counters and risk assessment peddlers creating bureaucracy for the sake of it and to line their own pockets.