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Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:35 pm
by Swallowtail
I was considering buying a smoothbore percussion musket .58cal for use with ball. I've since been advised that using ball would have to go on my FAC, where if I stick with shot then SGL is fine?
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:45 pm
by Rarms
Yes, shotgun (Sec 2.) only allows for smooth bores to fire a minimum of about 9 projectiles in one shot, with no more than a max diameter of 9mm or there about, aligns with an SSG loading.
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:56 pm
by dromia
"SGL" ???
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:30 pm
by AL8
Shot Gun Licence?
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:34 pm
by dromia
No such thing.
It is a certificate not a license,same as the firearms certificate.
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:37 pm
by Sim G
There was something somewhere about this several years ago. The MLAGBNI published something from the home office, I’m sure.
It was along the lines that a smooth bore musket is s2. Separate Ball, wad, powder and cap is not ammunition. Even when “assembled” in the musket it is still not ammunition because the cap remains separate to the “cartridge”.
Again, for what I remember, the Home Office were not that bothered about it and it was an anomaly the could not be easily rectified.
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:10 pm
by redcat
Smoothbore muskets are Section 2.
Redcat
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:02 pm
by channel12
Sim G wrote: ↑Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:37 pm
There was something somewhere about this several years ago. The MLAGBNI published something from the home office, I’m sure.
It was along the lines that a smooth bore musket is s2. Separate Ball, wad, powder and cap is not ammunition. Even when “assembled” in the musket it is still not ammunition because the cap remains separate to the “cartridge”.
Again, for what I remember, the Home Office were not that bothered about it and it was an anomaly the could not be easily rectified.
I had a similar discussion with one our RO's (ex police) who was saying that a club member shooting single ball from a smooth bore was illegal because it was Section ! ammunition. He couldn't or wouldn't grasp that a loose ball and powder are not Section 1 ammunition.
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:14 pm
by Graham M
I was also under the impression that shooting a single ball from a sec 2 musket transformed it into a sec 1.
Isn't here something about not shooting less than 9 balls/pellets out of a shotgun???
Re: Smoothbore Musket and S1
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:21 pm
by 450 Martini
Smoothbore muskets firing ball on ranges are section 2. The MLAGB who hold competitions for section 2 held muskets will tell you this, the Home office will also tell you this.
The nine pellets rule refers only to ammunition.
There are a fair few inexpensive smoothbore .577 muskets around which were built for the re-enactment market.