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Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:10 am
by Rockhopper
To add to the confusion somewhat my FEO wouldn't let me have a 7.62/.308 rifle etc. I had to specify which one i wanted. They were happy to let me have 7.62/.308 ammunition allowance though!

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:50 pm
by Molski
Chaps
Thankyou for all your invaluable advice it’s very much appreciated.

It seems from your replies that the .308 is favourite so It makes sense to drop the 6.5 Creedmore.
Geek, would two .22 lr rifles be considered acceptable by the feo considering (at the moment) they would both be used for target shooting?. If i had a permission then i was considering applying for two .22 as one would be used on the range and the other could be a dedicated NV pest control rifle, if I am allowed two then I would definitely apply for them.
So my new list would be.....
2 x .22 lr + moderators
.223 + moderator
.308 + moderator

Would it still be worth applying for the .22 fac air and the .17 hmr + moderators if I explained that I MAY be securing some permission in the near future or would I be better leaving them off altogether and applying for a variation as and when I do gain some permission .
Once i have settled on which rifles to apply for then I’m sure i shall be pestering you kind folk on make and models, twist rates. Length of barrels etc , etc .
Once again very many thanks for all your valuable input.
Atb
Molski (Steve)

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:56 pm
by Andy632
Why not ask your club secretary what he would recommend!
Our standard for our club members is. 3 x .22rifles plus a couple of moderators; .357 or 44mag rifle & 308 rifle (&308/7.62 ammo) plus any LBR/BPP if they're interested in that sort of thing.

You can always add in another odd one or two and allow the Licencing officer knock them back, so he feels he's achieved something!

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:16 pm
by Molski
Andy
Thanks for the advice, i had actually asked one of the staff (not the secretary) on what would be a good choice/ justifiable, his reply was “whatever you fancy but expect to negotiate with the feo and have a good reason and be able to justify your choice!). Which seems fair enough.
Cheers

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:58 pm
by Gazza
West Yorks are funny, or used to be, about how many guns you ask for on initial grant.
I put 9 guns on my first application and they were soon on the phone :D
They asked why I need so many, justifiable answer, target shooting.
They were still a bit shaky so I said drop the two pistols but none of the rifles and all was OK :good:
Who did you speak to at the club, Martin?

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:09 pm
by Andy632
I always tell our guys if they get any questions like that to ask how many golf stick thingies the chief constable has & why does he need so many! Usually gets the message across. ;)

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:56 pm
by J4mes
I went for the rather boring

.22Lr LBP
.22 LR semi + mod
.223/5.56 + mod
.308/7.62 + mod (ended up with 7.62x39 in this slot)

.223/5.56 still open at the minute but once thats filled I'll be looking at a pistol calibre underlever to keep the rest company.

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:54 pm
by Geek
Molski wrote:Chaps
Thankyou for all your invaluable advice it’s very much appreciated.

It seems from your replies that the .308 is favourite so It makes sense to drop the 6.5 Creedmore.
Geek, would two .22 lr rifles be considered acceptable by the feo considering (at the moment) they would both be used for target shooting?. If i had a permission then i was considering applying for two .22 as one would be used on the range and the other could be a dedicated NV pest control rifle, if I am allowed two then I would definitely apply for them.
So my new list would be.....
2 x .22 lr + moderators
.223 + moderator
.308 + moderator

Would it still be worth applying for the .22 fac air and the .17 hmr + moderators if I explained that I MAY be securing some permission in the near future or would I be better leaving them off altogether and applying for a variation as and when I do gain some permission .
Once i have settled on which rifles to apply for then I’m sure i shall be pestering you kind folk on make and models, twist rates. Length of barrels etc , etc .
Once again very many thanks for all your valuable input.
Atb
Molski (Steve)
My first FAC had 3x .22LR's + moderators, .223 + moderator + .38..357. I purchased one .22LR moderator then swopped the other .22LR moderator slots for other rifles. Why shouldn't you have more than one .227LR, one self loading and one bolt-action. There will be members on here with lots of .22LR's because that is their interest and possibly to suit the competitions that they enter.

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:33 am
by Pippin89
I am planning on 3 x .22LR when I apply in a couple of months.
1 bolt action with iron sights
1 bolt action with optic sight
1 semi auto for LSR
Perfectly reasonable to have separate rifles for different sights as there is no way they would expect you to pull them off and change them each time you shoot a new discipline. I am also going to apply for a .308 for full bore. Hopefully I get away with .308/7.62 to keep options open. Some seem to get away with it and others don't.
Mods for all which as others have said will mostly be used for 1 for 1 variations.
Add a couple of shotguns on my SGC and my cabinet will be full! haha

Re: FAC , which rifles on first application advice please

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:57 pm
by Geek
Whatever cabinet size you are thinking of buying, get the next size up at least. This will allow space for the one for one variations.

Once you have scoped rifles it will significantly reduce the number of rifles that will fit. Also, consider a separate ammunition safe. I have 1x10 gun, 1x6 gun and a breakdown shotgun safe as an ammunition safe (one of the safes also has an integral ammunition safe).