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Something went wrong this morning at the range with a
Winchester carbine type rifle that someone was shooting.

He had shot about 10 rounds and then had a miss fire, or just the
primmer fired. The thing was checked for a clear barrel, I was stood
behind not really paying attention so did not see why or give it any
thought. He put another round in, fired and there was a big bang,
a flash at the breech end and part of the guard / door plate flew off
and hit the shooter. The flash, sparks and shrapnel cut his face and
hand. He had glasses on so no real injury but he was very worried
about what had happened, obviously.

Everything was made safe but at least 2 rounds were still jammed
inside the magazine. The lever action was jammed solid, looking
Iike he will need the services of a professional gun Smith. He left
the firing point and I'm not sure what the result was as the detail
resumed shooting.

Thoughts were it could have been the failure of the first round left
some unused powder in the loader so when the second round fired it
Ignited the extra powder. Or he hand loaded and put a short charge in
the first round and an extra charge in the second?

So any way a bit of excitement.

ozone

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I take it these were handloads?

Plastering this on the internet is not helpful.
I assume said club is doing everything by the book, poor RCO filling in plenty of paperwork.
I hope this was on private range because

What you call a bit of excitement could end up with dire consequences all shooters.

As this was nothing to do with you, you should keep your nose out

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I think they were, I asked one of the safety officer's and he said they
we're hand loaded. 2 or 3 more experienced people, the range officer
and a senior experienced officer were all fussing around before the
shooting resumed.

ozone

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What range were you shooting on? MoD?

toffe wrapper wrote:Plastering this on the internet is not helpful.
I assume said club is doing everything by the book, poor RCO filling in plenty of paperwork.
I hope this was on private range because

What you call a bit of excitement could end up with dire consequences all shooters.

As this was nothing to do with you, you should keep your nose out

Are we not allowed to talk about incidents?

Are we all perfect and never experience issues?

No names, no places and no harm except pride from the look of it. Let's say I
totally got it wrong and it was an aledgidly hypothetical scenario which I imagined,
would it not be of interest?

Or do we not talk about near misses?

ozone
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RDC wrote:What range were you shooting on? MoD?

After being told to keep my nose out of it I'm not sure I should say
but it is well run with qualified RCO's and safety officers.

ozone

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[quote="RDC"]What range were you shooting on? MoD?[/qoute]

Could have potential repercussions for civilian clubs if it was.

snayperskaya wrote:

RDC wrote:What range were you shooting on? MoD?[/qoute]

Could have potential repercussions for civilian clubs if it was.

Nah, only if they were being naughty. Accidents do happen, it's up to the club to be acting above board and doing stuff right in order to stop it being an issue once the accident has happened. On MoD ranges it will result in more paperwork for the RCO!

My question was purely to find out the extent of the resulting investigation.

We had an incident recently where a shot was fired with no powder.

My concern was that having tapped the bullet out, the shooter carried on shooting (handloads) from the same batch.

My personal view is that he should have ceased shooting and pulled them all in case there was a double load in another.

I also think talking about such incidents is the best way of minimizing the risk of a repeat. An acident is best prevented by being open about it to identify the cause.