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New Walther lbp?
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:13 pm
by safetyfirst
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:48 pm
by gasman
several people saw it at Bisley Phoenix launch. apparently the grip is really small and most found little finger hanging off the grip, plus the10 round magazines are the skinny metal "buckmark" type and don't feed in magwell easily, so not much good for speed reloading in IPSC type matches. the hammer is internal with a "glock" type safety in trigger which so i'm told has an awful pull/feel to it.
its ok for plinking fun, but not suited for IPSC competitions was general opinion. £795 basic price.
the K22 or GSG 1911/lower mills/ivor johnson still main contenders for comps at moment.
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Wed May 31, 2017 10:33 pm
by rakirun
Just need a few more manufacturers to bring out UK legal models. If we start getting more choice hopefully the prices might drop a bit.
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 5:09 am
by dromia
You'll need a bigger UK market for that to happen.
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:44 am
by safetyfirst
800 for something not as much fun as a 1911 is going to be a hard sell.
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:51 am
by Sim G
gasman wrote:several people saw it at Bisley Phoenix launch. apparently the grip is really small and most found little finger hanging off the grip, plus the10 round magazines are the skinny metal "buckmark" type and don't feed in magwell easily, so not much good for speed reloading in IPSC type matches. the hammer is internal with a "glock" type safety in trigger which so i'm told has an awful pull/feel to it.
its ok for plinking fun, but not suited for IPSC competitions was general opinion. £795 basic price.
the K22 or GSG 1911/lower mills/ivor johnson still main contenders for comps at moment.
A couple if quotes from reviews of the PPQ in the US;
"This isn’t a smaller scale, pot metal, cheapo plinker like so many .22 pistols out there — it’s the full-size PPQ you know and love, made by Walther, with the same controls and slide length options as its centerfire brother and with a pretty darn good trigger in its own right"
"Just like we said in the 9mm’s review, it feels freaking awesome in the hand."
"Also, thanks to the .22 LR magazine being so slim but the PPQ .22’s grip being the normal width, the pistol benefits from a sweet magwell."
The only downside again with these is that in the more free parts of the world, just like the K22 or GSG, the PPQ retails for $450 or €500. It costs us double that for an extra 8 inches of barrel and a rod...
I don't think it's the concept of LBPs that has held them back in the UK, it's the price point.
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:26 am
by joe
Sim G wrote:gasman wrote:several people saw it at Bisley Phoenix launch. apparently the grip is really small and most found little finger hanging off the grip, plus the10 round magazines are the skinny metal "buckmark" type and don't feed in magwell easily, so not much good for speed reloading in IPSC type matches. the hammer is internal with a "glock" type safety in trigger which so i'm told has an awful pull/feel to it.
its ok for plinking fun, but not suited for IPSC competitions was general opinion. £795 basic price.
the K22 or GSG 1911/lower mills/ivor johnson still main contenders for comps at moment.
A couple if quotes from reviews of the PPQ in the US;
"This isn’t a smaller scale, pot metal, cheapo plinker like so many .22 pistols out there — it’s the full-size PPQ you know and love, made by Walther, with the same controls and slide length options as its centerfire brother and with a pretty darn good trigger in its own right"
"Just like we said in the 9mm’s review, it feels freaking awesome in the hand."
"Also, thanks to the .22 LR magazine being so slim but the PPQ .22’s grip being the normal width, the pistol benefits from a sweet magwell."
The only downside again with these is that in the more free parts of the world, just like the K22 or GSG, the PPQ retails for $450 or €500. It costs us double that for an extra 8 inches of barrel and a rod...
I don't think it's the concept of LBPs that has held them back in the UK, it's the price point.
They also had the fullbore version at the show , after handling them both (.22 and 9mm ) the PPQ lbp trigger feels the same as the 9mm PPQ ! Which was surprising as the 9mm uses a precocked striker and the .22 uses a precocked internal hammer
Prob will get one just awaiting email response from walther.com asking if there is any alloy zinc used in the internals the slide is 7075 aluminum though
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:18 pm
by safetyfirst
The double price has a lot to do with trying to make it worthwhile I guess. Caledonian have shifted a couple thousand k22's I think and I bet they've hardly made a dime.
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:28 pm
by MistAgain
At least the K-22 is 100% legal .
Re: New Walther lbp?
Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:50 pm
by joe
MistAgain wrote:At least the K-22 is 100% legal .
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