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SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:00 pm
by Joe Pugh
Hi all,

I was watching forgotten wepons on you tube and a new video showing a granade cup for a Lee Enfiled SMLE come up.

Are these legal to own in the UK? Are there any laws behind them? Can you use them?
I obviously have no intention of throwing a grenade 180 meters but maybey a tennis ball or 2 (childish maybey but I am curious). :)

Liberty Tree Cup
https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/p ... roduct=579

Forgotten weapons video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CT1DyyCxf9Q

I suppose this is something familar too these 'can cannons' beeing made in the US for the AR 15 style rifles.

Joe

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:04 pm
by Joe Pugh
Now looking more into it looks like they are a section 5 item.

That's a shame :(

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:18 pm
by ovenpaa
I had a feeling they were S5 as well however I have no idea why.

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:20 pm
by saddler
Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:38 pm
by Mikaveli
saddler wrote:Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.
How are these S5?

They appear to be little more than a choke tube. How would the law distinguish between a cup launcher and a muzzle brake, for example - the Lantac brake looks very similar...

A "grenade laucher" with its own trigger / firing mech is one thing - this doesn't seem to fit in the same category (and a quick Google seems to show a few antiques dealers offering them)?

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:58 pm
by saddler
Mikaveli wrote:
saddler wrote:Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.
How are these S5?

They appear to be little more than a choke tube. How would the law distinguish between a cup launcher and a muzzle brake, for example - the Lantac brake looks very similar...

A "grenade laucher" with its own trigger / firing mech is one thing - this doesn't seem to fit in the same category (and a quick Google seems to show a few antiques dealers offering them)?
Read the Firearms Act.
Yes.....they ARE little more than a basic tub.
Doesn't make them any less S.5

Antique dealer examples need to be deactivated or they're illegal too.

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:20 pm
by tackb
saddler wrote:
Mikaveli wrote:
saddler wrote:Section 5, as are the US grenade launcher attachment.
How are these S5?

They appear to be little more than a choke tube. How would the law distinguish between a cup launcher and a muzzle brake, for example - the Lantac brake looks very similar...

A "grenade laucher" with its own trigger / firing mech is one thing - this doesn't seem to fit in the same category (and a quick Google seems to show a few antiques dealers offering them)?
Read the Firearms Act.
Yes.....they ARE little more than a basic tub.
Doesn't make them any less S.5

Antique dealer examples need to be deactivated or they're illegal too.
I'm interested in how these are section five ? They just look like a tube ? How would you deactivate one?

Thanks?

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:26 pm
by bradaz11
Seal up the gas port?

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:55 pm
by saddler
tackb wrote: I'm interested in how these are section five ? They just look like a tube ? How would you deactivate one?

Thanks?
Firearms Act explains the reason...their ONLY use is launching explosives; zero target shooting or vermin uses.

Look like a tube as they ARE a tube.
Deactivate so they cannot vent gas from the barrel to the grenade...same as what they do to mortars or flamethrowers.
UK laws = normally as far removed from common sense as it's possible to be.

Re: SMLE grenade Cup

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:57 pm
by tackb
It's just a hole ,easily re drillable , surely you need a SMLE plus ammo and some mills bombs for these to be dangerous ?