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Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:54 am
by bradaz11
Been looking at flintlocks recently, and the Pagent Cavalry Carbine caught my eye

http://www.militaryheritage.com/carbine1.htm

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now according to their site, it says it hasn't had the touch hole drilled out, so does that mean it is a non functioning look alike? Would it then fall under Realistic Imitation Firearm, and so I'd have to be a re-enacter? or can I just import and hang it on the wall as it has never become a firearm?

As it isn't section 58 antique, I don't have any legal quandry over buying it with the intention of having it put on FAC so I should be able to state that is the intention after having the correct variation put in, getting it put on my FAC and getting the touch hole drilled.

probably won't be hugely accurate past 25 yrds, but i love the look of it.

so, opinions on the above please....

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:45 am
by Ovenpaa
Is there a price on the site?

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:50 am
by bradaz11
Yeah. It's on the next screen back. $500 plus $75 post i think it was

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:17 pm
by saddler
Doesn't the VCRA & the RIF clause have a cut-off date of about 1870 or so? i.e. old front stuffers & cowboy revolvers are exempt as they are old designs

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:47 pm
by greenshoots
my understanding of it if it is made before a certain date then its an antique in the states

greenshoots

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:52 pm
by greenshoots
looking at its description it will fall foul of our shotgun regs ie smoothbore short barrel

greenshoots

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:31 pm
by davidh195
One hurdle is if it's considerd readily convertible.

David

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:28 pm
by snayperskaya
greenshoots wrote:my understanding of it if it is made before a certain date then its an antique in the states

greenshoots
Firearms in the States become C&R, curios and relics, when they became 50 years old from the current date......

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:52 pm
by saddler
From the vendors site:
"As with all our other flintlocks, the vent is not drilled so we can ship easily to our door throughout North America and to Europe and the UK. Aside from that they are exactly like the originals..."
To further dampen the panty-wetting commentators, have a look at the PAGES of similar full-spec. replicas sold by Henry Kranks, as one example. NOT made of monkey metal in the Far East, but by the same Italian firms that make functioning BP arms (Uberti, Pedersoli, etc).
Only difference? No drilled flash hole.... wallhead

Re: Importing Un drilled flintlock carbine

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:13 am
by greenshoots
i dont know about The herp-derp is strong in this thread!!

I don't have any legal quandry over buying it with the intention of having it put on FAC so I should be able to state that is the intention after having the correct variation put in, getting it put on my FAC and getting the touch hole drilled.

but my advice is given after reading the above

greenshoots