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Hi there.

Sorry if this question has been asked loads of times but am looking at getting an AR in .223. I will be using it for targets mainly but the odd fox at sub 300 yards will also be on the cards.

Might even be persuaded to do CSR!!

Thanks in advance.

Whats the question?

Considering where you live give Mark Bradley @ Bradley arms a bell, he'll sort you out.

Andy.

Pretendy AR alert!

Pretendy AR alert!

Pretendy AR alert!

Move to the shelters now!


There are reams on this subject here and one or two of those posts are of interest and some are also polite so I suggest that you do a search.

Also as has been said what is your question??

Airbrush wrote:Considering where you live give Mark Bradley @ Bradley arms a bell, he'll sort you out.

Andy.

Thanks Andy,

am putting a list together of up to 3 makers and Bradley is one especially as I have shot yours!

dromia wrote:Pretendy AR alert!

Pretendy AR alert!

Pretendy AR alert!

Move to the shelters now!


There are reams on this subject here and one or two of those posts are of interest and some are also polite so I suggest that you do a search.

Also as has been said what is your question??

Am really looking for some basic recommendations for a new starter or is that upstarter!

Hi
If you want an AR type you have plenty of good people to deal with Mark B, Dave Wylde etc.
If you are going to Shoot CSR get one, If you are not a bolt action 223 will do just as well for what you describe.

godfather wrote:

dromia wrote:Pretendy AR alert!

Pretendy AR alert!

Pretendy AR alert!

Move to the shelters now!


There are reams on this subject here and one or two of those posts are of interest and some are also polite so I suggest that you do a search.

Also as has been said what is your question??

Am really looking for some basic recommendations for a new starter or is that upstarter!

Then do a search as has been suggested this topic has been done over many times from every partisan view point that this divisive subject seems to generate.

You will get as many recommendations and damnations as there are pretendy AR makers.

The best way is to try all that is out there and make your own mind up.

Not quite true is it, things change and new options become available including hitherto new manufacturers. There are a few European manufacturers getting in on the act so why not revisit the big AR question from time to time. Yes the AR is the ultimate Lego gun but some are better than others and pray tell how does one shoot all the different ones. Isn't that what the forum is for to pass back information from those that are lucky enough to own or have shot the vast range that is now available. Why knock the few "assemblers" as some of them are skilled in what they do and even manufacture their own components. I love my AR's even if they are "pretendy" a .22 LR Lantac a 9mm SGC Hybrid, and a Bradley Arms SP. It is bit condescending to make fun of the AR just because it's not what you like. Isn't that why we are the mess we are in as a sport. Oh and l like my "pretendy" Arsenal AK and "pretendy" Sig 522 as well.

No one is knocking the OP or his post.

However history on here has shown that pretendy AR discussions break down into factionalised, childish "my gun is better that your gun" pishing matches with bad blood. Pretendy ARs just brings out the worst in some people.

It seems to be the nature of pretendy ARs that they attract such owners.

Also there is nothing wrong in doing a search and seeing what has gone before, it is a sensible approach to any subject and can help with more informed questioning.

If we didn't want another pretendy AR discussion then the thread would have been locked.

But we do want one that doesn't degenerate onto the usual pretendy AR conflict and arrogance that some pretendy AR owner/makers members/exmembers seem to wish to pursue.

Trying out guns is still the best way of making a decision in my opinion, if you are happy buying blind with only internet advice then good luck to you.

I am not making fun of pretendy ARs and I have nothing against them. I am just correcting the appellation, they are not ARs but single shot, straight pull AR loookalikes and to call them ARs is disingenuous to my mind.

I have shot a few of them and found them to be well assembled guns but not something I would spend money on myself, now I would have a real one in a heart beat if I could again. If people like their pretendy guns then good luck to them, nowhere have I ever said not to buy a gun because of its type and have never suggested that people should not buy pretendy ARs.

My posts are about the type of opinions and grief that historically pretendy AR discussions have fallen into between owners/makers, not about the guns themselves, that pretendy AR factionalism is the real reflection of the divisiveness that has put UK shooting into this undoubted "mess".