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Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:30 am
by Gaz
Rifle clubs across the country are scratching their heads after the NRA issued a letter stating that fullbore shooters’ names and ages must be supplied to them by affiliated clubs – with some people worrying the move may be linked to insurance.
https://ukshootingnews.wordpress.com/20 ... l-details/

All a bit odd. Some people have been told this is to do with insurance cover, others have been told differently.

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:43 am
by FredB
We started to collect birth dates but is was hard work, so we queried it and were told not to bother.
Fred

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:18 pm
by bigfathairybiker
Any club doing do is breaking the law if they dont have the members permission.

Mark

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:26 pm
by TattooedGun
bigfathairybiker wrote:Any club doing do is breaking the law if they dont have the members permission.

Mark
Data Protections Act?

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:34 pm
by Chuck
Definitely data protection issues here.

What BASC say on the subject:

http://basc.org.uk/join-basc/shooting-a ... ction-act/

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:42 pm
by Maggot
Well they have my details, I am an NRA member and use their facilities regularly.

I am also a member of an afilliated club. Apart from the DPA, as a member I would expect the NRA to know who was using our facilities, particularly these days regarding insurance or not.

Another snort of indignation from the "lets kick off about something else because we can" brigade.

IF it does involve insurance I should bloody well hope that ANYONE on the same property as my with a firearm woudl also be suitably insured.

Why not ask the NRA teanews

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:43 pm
by TattooedGun
Chuck wrote:Definitely data protection issues here.

What BASC say on the subject:

http://basc.org.uk/join-basc/shooting-a ... ction-act/
Permitted disclosures, other than those made with the consent of the data subjects, are restricted to those third parties that are necessary for running the club or syndicate (BASC, for example).
Surely this would include the NRA as running of the club...?

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:14 pm
by Individual
Gaz wrote: All a bit odd. Some people have been told this is to do with insurance cover, others have been told differently.
May be they just want to know how many of their members are nearly dead.

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:46 pm
by Gaz
Maggot wrote:Well they have my details, I am an NRA member and use their facilities regularly.

I am also a member of an afilliated club. Apart from the DPA, as a member I would expect the NRA to know who was using our facilities, particularly these days regarding insurance or not.

Another snort of indignation from the "lets kick off about something else because we can" brigade.

IF it does involve insurance I should bloody well hope that ANYONE on the same property as my with a firearm woudl also be suitably insured.

Why not ask the NRA teanews
Did you actually read the link, or do you just see I've posted something and immediately start spouting off like a broken water fountain?

(I know the answer, as does everyone else here, but I'm interested to see your reply)

edit to add - you've never booked onto a Bisley range as a club RCO either, have you? If you had, you'd know full well the NRA has no idea who's there on a day-to-day basis, just what clubs are using the ranges.

Re: Confusion as NRA demands club members’ personal details

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:48 pm
by Gaz
TattooedGun wrote:
Chuck wrote:Definitely data protection issues here.

What BASC say on the subject:

http://basc.org.uk/join-basc/shooting-a ... ction-act/
Permitted disclosures, other than those made with the consent of the data subjects, are restricted to those third parties that are necessary for running the club or syndicate (BASC, for example).
Surely this would include the NRA as running of the club...?
I'd say no. If you consent to giving your data to your club for the administration of the club, then you haven't consented to your data being passed to the NRA for insurance purposes. Up until now the comp card has been entirely administered at club level and the records only pulled in if there's an incident.