Israel Public Security Minister: “Citizens trained to use weapons are a multiplying force in our battle against terrorism”
Whereas we would be disarmed PDQ if that ever happened here.
The operative word of course is TRAINED..............just issuing permits and firearms with no MANDATORY or ACCESS to proper training is not a good move.
Those who get a permit will certainly become more agile following this method..
Some EU countries allow personal protection firearms. In Portugal if you can prove need you can carry up to .32 caliber . The good reason to carry was changed in 2009 so not sure what the police consider good reason to carry
Off course we are allowed handguns, shotguns and rifles for sports shooting and home protection! The data base system is no wear like pnc thing here. The gun crime is nothing anywear near UK levels (hint proof that daily mail and gun control network are wrong )
Also Jose publico are not p&&@ like most sheep here
joe wrote:Some EU countries allow personal protection firearms. In Portugal if you can prove need you can carry up to .32 caliber . The good reason to carry was changed in 2009 so not sure what the police consider good reason to carry
Off course we are allowed handguns, shotguns and rifles for sports shooting and home protection! The data base system is no wear like pnc thing here. The gun crime is nothing anywear near UK levels (hint proof that daily mail and gun control network are wrong )
Also Jose publico are not p&&@ like most sheep here
why only 32 cal? Do you mean 32acp? That seems like falling under the some gun is better than none category (still more gun than here still). I'd have thought that if a cal limit for PP was around it should be either 380 acp or 38 special.
Apparently it is very hard to get a gun permit in Israel. Never mind training as a civilian.
Seems the rules are being relaxed and those already with a gun are being encouaged to carry it .
Sixshsot, calibre is not so important as shot placement. Make enough holes - even with a .22 - and you'll get a result. A lot depends on the MOTIVATION of the aggressor too.
A .22 will do the business - just look at how many stone throwers the Israelis are stopping with it.
Political Correctness is the language of lies, written by the corrupt , spoken by the inept!
joe wrote:Some EU countries allow personal protection firearms. In Portugal if you can prove need you can carry up to .32 caliber . The good reason to carry was changed in 2009 so not sure what the police consider good reason to carry
Off course we are allowed handguns, shotguns and rifles for sports shooting and home protection! The data base system is no wear like pnc thing here. The gun crime is nothing anywear near UK levels (hint proof that daily mail and gun control network are wrong )
Also Jose publico are not p&&@ like most sheep here
why only 32 cal? Do you mean 32acp? That seems like falling under the some gun is better than none category (still more gun than here still). I'd have thought that if a cal limit for PP was around it should be either 380 acp or 38 special.
The largest caliber you are allowed in this part of the UK for a PPW is 9MM. I do know some in the UDR were issued with .22 handguns for PP.
In the mid-1970s the Royal Army Ordnance Corps purchased about 3000 Walther PPs in 22LR for the Ulster Defence Regiment, an infantry regiment. These guns were designated L66A1 and described, maybe a touch grandiosely, as a PDW or "personal defense weapon". Ostensibly, these pistols were used for off duty carry by UDR members, were popular among servicewomen and occasionally used for training
joe wrote:Some EU countries allow personal protection firearms. In Portugal if you can prove need you can carry up to .32 caliber . The good reason to carry was changed in 2009 so not sure what the police consider good reason to carry
Off course we are allowed handguns, shotguns and rifles for sports shooting and home protection! The data base system is no wear like pnc thing here. The gun crime is nothing anywear near UK levels (hint proof that daily mail and gun control network are wrong )
Also Jose publico are not p&&@ like most sheep here
why only 32 cal? Do you mean 32acp? That seems like falling under the some gun is better than none category (still more gun than here still). I'd have thought that if a cal limit for PP was around it should be either 380 acp or 38 special.
The largest caliber you are allowed in this part of the UK for a PPW is 9MM. I do know some in the UDR were issued with .22 handguns for PP.
In the mid-1970s the Royal Army Ordnance Corps purchased about 3000 Walther PPs in 22LR for the Ulster Defence Regiment, an infantry regiment. These guns were designated L66A1 and described, maybe a touch grandiosely, as a PDW or "personal defense weapon". Ostensibly, these pistols were used for off duty carry by UDR members, were popular among servicewomen and occasionally used for training
I take it those were PPK clones made by some other brand ? As Walter only made true PPKs in 380 or 32 ???
All Israeli's over the age of 18 are subject to conscription, so there are plenty of trained people in Israel - and their training is excellent by all accounts, too.
We should have same policy here ! If I'm certified to hold firearms at home and carry them in my car with 200 rounds to the range then I can be trusted to have one on my person for protection (subject to a ppw course)
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