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30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:36 pm
by ovenpaa
I have a 30-30 Winchester Model 94 here and need to load some ammunition for it. Does anyone have any views on crimp versus no crimp in an under lever. I have a Lee two die set to be getting on with and will be shooting .309" 150 grain cast soup cans without a gas check.

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:41 pm
by saddler
CRIMP
100% for ANY tubular magazine gun

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:40 pm
by FredB
Agree--you must crimp or risk a blow-up if the bullet is pushed back into the case when feeding from the lifter.
Fred

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:01 pm
by dodgyrog
Light crimp using the Lee collet crimp die.
With light loads the recoil is unlikely to push the boolits backwards.
BTW I sent you RN boolits in error so load them one at a time.

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:46 pm
by ovenpaa
Roger, if anything they look like round nosed flats and the dies I have do not crimp. Add to that I suspect a flaring mandrel would not go amiss so it may be as well top start again with things or single feed them for the time being.

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:18 pm
by saddler
May have a factory crimp die...but will need to check....
If I have I'll post it down

ETA:
Just found it. Will post it tomorrow

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:47 pm
by ovenpaa
Cheers Jon, I will keep an eye out for it, meanwhile I have better machine a mandrel to slightly flare the case mouths if I am going to prevent bullet shaving.

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:23 pm
by Alpha1
Yes you need to make a case mouth expander flaring tool. I use semi wad cutters in my under lever. I use a light crimp.

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:48 pm
by meles meles
Sounds more like hair stylists' convention than Full Bore

Re: 30-30 WInchester - To crimp or not?

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:41 pm
by Alpha1
I make my own expander buttons based on the Lyman expander spuds.