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Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:10 pm
by JS569
Hi all
Just a question on my certificate and its conditions, I've got my military rifles which I shoot whilst as a member of a club. But I've also got my 6.5 and 556 for shooting vermin, deer, fox and lawful quarry. The exact wording is-
The 556 rifle and 6.5 rifle (serial numbers excluded in this transcript) and ammunition shall be used for shooting vermin, fox, deer and any lawful quarry for that calibre and zeroing on ranges or land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for that area where the land is situated and over where the holder has lawful authority to shoot
So my question is I've been asked to shoot in Scotland (deer) do I need to find out if the land is cleared for the calibres? Or alternatively do I need to do anything to ensure if I'm taking my rifle its legitimate
Thanks in advance
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:31 pm
by James K
Looks like you would need specific permission from the Chief officer of Police for any piece of land you wish to shoot on. You do not appear to have an 'Open Ticket' and therefore you cannot decide yourself if the land is suitable.
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:42 pm
by DL.
James K wrote:Looks like you would need specific permission from the Chief officer of Police for any piece of land you wish to shoot on. You do not appear to have an 'Open Ticket' and therefore you cannot decide yourself if the land is suitable.
I'm sure you're well meaning with the advice that you're giving, but when it says-
land deemed suitable by the chief officer of police for that area
It means that the ground has been inspected and had a limit of what chamberings can be used with closed ticket holders.
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:44 pm
by James K
Well its not an 'Open Ticket', so how does the OP go about finding out if the land is cleared?
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:58 pm
by DL.
James K wrote:Well its not an 'Open Ticket', so how does the OP go about finding out if the land is cleared?
Ask the person that gave you the invite would normally be the first line of approach.

Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:27 pm
by saddler
...and it's only allowed if I can show up too!
It's a new Scottish law. Honest...
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:50 pm
by JS569
I've got an open cert on my .22's which the cert details that I deem the land safe to use a .22 on.
Whilst I'm certain the land is suitable and will have clearance I guess I'll need to contact the landowner to find out what it's cleared up to.
I just want to make sure everything is squared away before I go up. I could request an open certificate across all calibres to simplify things moving forward
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:57 am
by kennyc
JS569 wrote:I've got an open cert on my .22's which the cert details that I deem the land safe to use a .22 on.
Whilst I'm certain the land is suitable and will have clearance I guess I'll need to contact the landowner to find out what it's cleared up to.
I just want to make sure everything is squared away before I go up. I could request an open certificate across all calibres to simplify things moving forward
do Police Scotland "clear land"? other than that it would seem to be good reason to "open" your cert, but good luck! the Firearms Dept's can have differing views on "good reason"
Re: Taking rifles to Scotland
Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:07 pm
by Blackstuff
You have the non-land specific 'closed' condition. Get whoever asked you to shoot up there to write you a letter and give details of the land/location and ask your FLD to 'open' the condition on your FAC