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Shame there's nothing really original about it....

It has an unconventional rail system that looks like the frame runs on rails on the slide rather than having the slide ride in rails in the frame.

The same as the CZ 75, and numerous CZ clones.

in 9mm para? i thought the russians still used 9mm mak?

I like it.





Sort of like a mix between Bubbit's Steyr M/Caracal and the CZ-75/SiG210.

bradaz11 wrote:in 9mm para? i thought the russians still used 9mm mak?

After initial test and research, conducted since late 1980s under the codename “Grach”, Russian armed forces adopted an improved version of the world’s most popular pistol ammo, the 9x19 Parabellum. First produced circa 1994, this version of the 9mm features an armor piercing bullet of proprietary design, and a powerful powder charge, which brings this cartridge, officially designated as 7N21, to the +P+ level, with peak pressures running up to 2 800 kg per square meter. Armor piercing bullet for 7N21 ammo features a hardened steel penetrator core, enclosed into bimetallic jacket. The space between the core and jacked is filled with polyethylene, and the tip of the penetrator is exposed at the front of the bullet, to achieve better penetration. Bullet of the similar design, but of lighter weight, is used in another service 9x19 cartridge, 7N31, which has been developed in late 1990s for the GSh-18 pistol, and latter was adopted for PP-2000 submachine gun

If it performs half as well as the CZ75 it'll be a winner - it's just a pity we'll never see it here to see if it matches the hype.

The CZ 75 was summat good then ?

meles meles wrote:The CZ 75 was summat good then ?

Outstanding pistols.

Sim G wrote:

meles meles wrote:The CZ 75 was summat good then ?

Outstanding pistols.

As was the Bren10

Made SimG the man he is today....a sockless cop with an 80's haircut