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I read that as pushing for a total lead ban, not just in shot.

Hopefully the result achieved in norway may go someway to sway them away, otherwise it'll be the end of PSG

Blackstuff wrote:Hopefully the result achieved in norway may go someway to sway them away, otherwise it'll be the end of PSG

That's probably part of the plan.

Oh i've no doubt this is more politically than environmentally motivated

Blackstuff wrote:Hopefully the result achieved in norway may go someway to sway them away, otherwise it'll be the end of PSG

Not necessarily - it just means you won't be shooting steel at steel, there are other cartridge options (albeit slightly more expensive and less common) but, there are other options for the plates.

It may of course mean that the plates have a shorter life, aren't as easily resettable, don't comply with IPSC (yet) but none of it means the end of PSG!

Now, given that they're talking about Lead shot - how long before they decide that centrefire ammo needs a coat of looking at

nickb834 wrote:

Blackstuff wrote:Hopefully the result achieved in norway may go someway to sway them away, otherwise it'll be the end of PSG

Not necessarily - it just means you won't be shooting steel at steel, there are other cartridge options (albeit slightly more expensive and less common) but, there are other options for the plates.

It may of course mean that the plates have a shorter life, aren't as easily resettable, don't comply with IPSC (yet) but none of it means the end of PSG!

Now, given that they're talking about Lead shot - how long before they decide that centrefire ammo needs a coat of looking at

Considering the options for non-lead slugs (the slugs alone are nearly ten times the price of the leaded versions) it will be the end for target shotgun.

I think in the imminent future I will be stockpiling as many slugs and bullets as I can afford.

zanes wrote:.....
Considering the options for non-lead slugs (the slugs alone are nearly ten times the price of the leaded versions) it will be the end for target shotgun.

I think in the imminent future I will be stockpiling as many slugs and bullets as I can afford.

That's a fair point - I didn't consider slugs, perhaps a steel sabot fully encased in plastic that doesn't discard will 1) protect the barrel 2) be of a comparable weight 3) be a stable projectile?

Might be possible to "cast" something with steel ball and plastic resin, I might just have a look into that out of curiosity.

zanes wrote:I think in the imminent future I will be stockpiling as many slugs and bullets as I can afford.

But for how long will you be allowed to use them?

nickb834 wrote:

Blackstuff wrote:Hopefully the result achieved in norway may go someway to sway them away, otherwise it'll be the end of PSG

Not necessarily - it just means you won't be shooting steel at steel, there are other cartridge options (albeit slightly more expensive and less common) but, there are other options for the plates.

It may of course mean that the plates have a shorter life, aren't as easily resettable, don't comply with IPSC (yet) but none of it means the end of PSG!

Now, given that they're talking about Lead shot - how long before they decide that centrefire ammo needs a coat of looking at

And the award, for understatement of the year, goes to....... NICKB834 clapclap

Last time i looked for it when was in my nearest RFD a box of tungsten ammo was about £35 (at least 5 years ago). And now looking at Just Cartridges price list the cheapest non-toxic cartridges are TMX @ £28.50 per 25, the average being well over £40. Now i know there are a few millionnaires on the PSG circuit, but i very much doubt that 90% of those currently shooting could afford a x10 cost increase!! In its current format, a lead ban is the death of PSG.

The only way i could see it surviving would be to somehow create plates/targets that could be shot with steel but considering many PSG locations are quarries/hard surfaced i doubt it would be very safe still.