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Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you stand?
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:12 am
by TattooedGun
Where do you stand legally whilst your FAC is in with the police to continue shooting...?
I have county cards to shoot whilst it's away, but I need my rifle to shoot them...
Can I still go or would it be illegal if I was stopped and couldn't produce my FAC..?
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 12:17 am
by dave_303
To my recollection you're ok, just best to keep a photocopy on you, so if you do get stopped you can produce it and the enquiring officer can check with the National Firearms something something database.
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:32 am
by Chapuis
No problem, you still have a valid FAC you just don't have the actual document in your possession.
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:39 am
by Mr_Logic
Yep, no need to carry your FAC with you - not required in law. However, a police officer does have the power to seize your firearms unless you can prove they are legit. Nowadays they can check the PNC to prove it, so you're all good.
That said a photocopy can speed the process if you get that far.
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:23 am
by 20series
Mr_Logic wrote:Yep, no need to carry your FAC with you - not required in law. However, a police officer does have the power to seize your firearms unless you can prove they are legit. Nowadays they can check the PNC to prove it, so you're all good.
That said a photocopy can speed the process if you get that far.
+1 on this
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:57 am
by Blackstuff
Crack on!
Although i have been stopped by the police (well, actually by crashing my car
:lol: ) when i had guns with me, no certificate, on a Sunday so no FLD staff to contact AND the PNC was down :roll: so the officer couldn't verify my details, it wasn't a problem. I'm sure a lot depends on your attitude, the circumstances and the officer. While it is technically an offence to not be able to produce your certificate, BASC claims that no one has ever been prosecuted for that offence alone.
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:58 am
by Mr_Logic
It is not an offence at all.
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:22 am
by Blackstuff
:lol: Every, single, time, this comes up someone
reckons it isn't
Section 48 (4) of the Firearms Act 1968 tesnews :55:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:30 am
by Mr_Logic
A constable may demand the production of the certificate. That doesn't mean I have to have it with me - I can produce the original if the Officer accompanies me to my home, and a photocopy demonstrates under 48.4.2 that the person is entitled to those firearms.
So like I said, no offence not to have the FAC with me.
Re: Shooting whilst FAC in for Variation...? Where do you st
Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 9:36 am
by Gaz
Does that work like driving licences, where you can "produce" it at a police station after the event?
