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Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:52 am
by Dustyman
Good day , really as the title , has any one got a good starting point or a working load for this replica ? Just wondered if there were any shooters already using this to reasonable effect before I start out . Thankyou for looking , cheers
Sorry , forgot to say
Spec on barrel is as factory as far as I know 7 1/2 inch , 7 groove , forged steel with steel back strap. , no brass as far as I can tell

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:04 pm
by anpol
0.7 gram works perfect for my Remington .44 7.5" (sic!). It's just to show you that there is no such thing as too small a load ;-). OK, you may start from .7 g na be supprised how low the sweet spot might be found.

My Pietta .36 Navy didn't shoot any load for great accuracy, I won't even try to advice you on that. As the Italian replicas can really vary - even from batch to batch I think it would prudent to start from say .7 up. No point going any lower, I think.

Cheers

Andy

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:20 am
by Dustyman
Many thanks , gives me a guage of what to prob work around . Thanks for posting , cheers Ian

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:05 am
by Doz
I use 9 grains of Swiss 1 in my Pietta .36 Navy which only has a 5" barrel. Adequate for punching paper at 25 yards but I'll never win any prizes with it! One of the most "fun to shoot" guns I own though.

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:31 am
by dromia
anpol wrote:0.7 gram works perfect for my Remington .44 7.5" (sic!). It's just to show you that there is no such thing as too small a load ;-). OK, you may start from .7 g na be supprised how low the sweet spot might be found.

My Pietta .36 Navy didn't shoot any load for great accuracy, I won't even try to advice you on that. As the Italian replicas can really vary - even from batch to batch I think it would prudent to start from say .7 up. No point going any lower, I think.

Cheers

Andy
What does all that mean in proper money then? Grains.

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:06 am
by anpol
That would be 10 grains, roughly. I never bothered with being precise with my Pietta navy. When I bought the Remington I just used the randomly cut off 9mm case (1g/14gn) which happened to measure 0.7 gram (my scale won't show in grains :-(), tried going up to 15 gn, but one tight hole groups punched with the 10 grain loads gave me excuse to abandon all the hard work ;-).

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:10 am
by dromia
Thank you, I don't do metric never been taught it at school and no one sent me a letter about changing it. Just confuses everyone having two bloody systems, I just stick with imperial it is what I know and understand. Metric is so bloody soulless.

My Uberti Navy .36 load is 12 grains.

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 12:25 pm
by anpol
It is! I remember when I was a kid being born into the metric world, I made myself a paper measure with inch/foot scale. It was so romantic :roll: .
I was born into the metric system so it is natural for me, but I think grains when talking bulets and powder. I can't imagine anybody having a belt with 1cm spaced holes :-D.

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:59 pm
by DaveB
Interesting. I have two Uberti 1861 Navy revolvers and a Pietta 1851 Navy. I have never in my long history with these revolvers weighed a powder charge. Black powder is generally in my experience delivered by volume, rather than weight.

I originally used an old .38 special case with a handle soldered onto it, then bought a powder measure with the tube cut to the same capacity as the .38 Special case. This will just fill the chambers to slightly below the level of the cylinder face. I then add an OxYoke Wonder Wad, compress the powder charge and then add (and obviously seat) the ball. This gives a load capable of knocking down IPSC popper targets calibrated for 9mm Luger/Parabellum.

Bottom line is with FFFG black powder, Pyrodex or Hogdgen Triple-Seven you cannot load enough propellant into the cylinder to do any damage.

Re: Start load for Uberti .36 1851 navy London Bp pistol

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:06 pm
by dromia
Yep measured by volume which is usually described by weight in grains. Actual weight may vary depending on the powder but the volume measure remains the same.