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101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:20 pm
by sconie
Hi all, well my full club membership has been confirmed and I will be posting my 101 tomorrow hopefully, I would appreciate your help in completing this as although I have held my FAC for fifteen years it has always been working firearms, so I have never requested any personal weapons.
I get the feeling that police Scotland are not as generous with held ammo quantities as those forces in England, and I would appreciate if any Scottish members could advise me on this?
So I'm sitting with my blank 101, here is what I had in mind, please feel free to advise on any better suggestions before I submit my variation.
. 22 for a 10/22 or similar
. 38/.357 for a marlin lever action
. 223 for a straight pull (Bradley /lantac)
. 308/7.62-51 for a bolt action or straight pull
. 7.62-39 for a Soviet calibre
If I give down the AR route may add. 300 down the line along with a section one shotgun, but I think that list would get me started.
Can you please advise on ammo quantity for the above.?
Many thanks
I may also add either the. 45 or 9mm lever release
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:30 pm
by saddler
ALL mine were buy 1000, possess 1100
Had the rim-fire total upped last renewal, plus the shotgun slug is only 200 max.
. 22 for a 10/22 or similar
TRY a second .22 for a bolt-action
.357 for a marlin lever action
The chambering is .357 - the .38 part will be added to the ammo table if you request it/remind them
. 223 for a straight pull (Bradley /lantac)
MAY want to change this to 5.56, or list it as 223/5.56
. 308/7.62-51 for a bolt action or straight pull
Just .308 should be ok, as 7.62x51 IS a different chambering, slightly...
. 7.62-39 for a Soviet calibre
MAY want to just list this as 7.62 - gives you more options for an x33, x39, x51, x 54, x63 etc.
The form 101 is all about CALIBER, not chambering sizes
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:54 pm
by sconie
Thanks, I thought that they tended to look at 7.62 as the nato x51 and that some ammo dealers would frown upon it if it didn't specify the calibre clearly.
I know that I should also ask for suppressors for each calibre, would all of my selection be applicable for requesting a suppressor?.
Would there be an completed 101 online anywhere that I could use as a template, as I don't want to muck it up and cause further delay.
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:15 pm
by kennyc
saddler wrote:ALL mine were buy 1000, possess 1100
Had the rim-fire total upped last renewal, plus the shotgun slug is only 200 max.
. 22 for a 10/22 or similar
TRY a second .22 for a bolt-action
.357 for a marlin lever action
The chambering is .357 - the .38 part will be added to the ammo table if you request it/remind them
. 223 for a straight pull (Bradley /lantac)
MAY want to change this to 5.56, or list it as 223/5.56
. 308/7.62-51 for a bolt action or straight pull
Just .308 should be ok, as 7.62x51 IS a different chambering, slightly...
. 7.62-39 for a Soviet calibre
MAY want to just list this as 7.62 - gives you more options for an x33, x39, x51, x 54, x63 etc.
The form 101 is all about CALIBER, not chambering sizes
always put the imperial and the metric sizes and you won't have to worry about it, some RFD's FLD's can be funny about these things
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:26 pm
by Sandgroper
Up here, Police Scotland, didn't have any problems when I requested generic calibres, e.g. .22RF, .22CF, .257, 6.5mm, 9mm and .45!
As for ammo - go with the amounts Saddler suggested.
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:53 am
by sconie
Couple of questions, if I put. 223/5.56 and. 308/7.62 as rifle choices, do I have to specify if they will be straightpull pull or bolt action?, also there is only space on the 101 form for requesting five additional Firearms, do I just print off an extra 101 or would a written or printed request attached be OK?
Here is my final selection for now and how I intend to write it in section 19 of my 101. I have added 7.92 for a K98 and 7.62-39 for a VZ and 7.62-54 for a mosin nagant, I also added 9mm for a SGC lever release, do you have to specify it as lever release?
Calibre / Type / Reason / Where
. 22 Rifle Club shooting Club ranges
. 38/.357 Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 223/5.56 Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 308/7.62 Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 7.62-39 Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 7.92 Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 7.62-54 Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 9mm Rifle Club shooting club ranges
. 38/3.57 moderator club shooting club ranges
. 223 /5.56 moderator club shooting club ranges
. 308/7.62 moderator club shooting club ranges
. 7.62-39 moderator club shooting club ranges
. 9mm moderator club shooting club ranges
I never added moderators for the nagant or K98 calibres, is there such a thing?
And for the ammo I am going to simply ask for 1000 to buy and 1100 to hold.
Please let me know if that all looks OK, if I need to ammend anything please advise.
Cheers
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:21 am
by mr smith
Action type is only entered when you buy the gun.
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:41 am
by sconie
mr smith wrote:Action type is only entered when you buy the gun.
Ahh, understood, does the rest look OK?
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:53 am
by Demonic69
For ammo I had it suggested to me that 1000/1500 for .22RF and 500/800 for everything else was a safe bet.
I wouldn't like to go too close with the hold/buy limits as only keeping 100 .22s when buying a batch of 1000 might be difficult, especially if you're shooting regularly.
Re: 101 help and ammo allowance from police Scotland?
Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:03 am
by sconie
Demonic69 wrote:For ammo I had it suggested to me that 1000/1500 for .22RF and 500/800 for everything else was a safe bet.
I wouldn't like to go too close with the hold/buy limits as only keeping 100 .22s when buying a batch of 1000 might be difficult, especially if you're shooting regularly.
Thanks, I'll stick 1000/1500 in for the. 22 then, as for the other, I thought that others recommended the 1000 quantities in order to keep the costs down when purchasing, as the best deals deals are in 1000 + quantities, I'll take it under advisement however.