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moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problems
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:32 pm
by joe
hey,
been told to jog on from my rented house (landlord wants to move back in) in surrey, due to housing rental cost might be forced to move into london met area.....but i'm worried (due to the mets very anti gun attitude) that my FAC and SGC will be revoked the minute i move to the met area or at renewal because :-
i've got a few minor convictions from quite few years back
suffered from stress and anxiety when in college 10 years ago and once again in 09 following a serious car crash!
surrey plod have no problems with me at all. however each chief constable has varying degrees of discretion; when my gp had to send a report to surrey firearms about my stress issues 10 years ago she put down 'anger management issues' but she said that i have ok now and doing very well! i think this and my previous convictions could result in the met commissioner taking away my ticket with immediate effect or at renewal time even though surrey have no concerns at all
any advice please ???
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:10 pm
by meles meles
Stay in Surrey ?
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:20 pm
by John MH
Always found the Met quite amenable.
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:21 pm
by joe
meles meles wrote:Stay in Surrey ?
you think met would take it! ?
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:36 pm
by meles meles
We haven't a clue, ooman.
Plenty on here will vouch for that...
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:32 am
by Dangermouse
I started in the Met FET area, now in Surrey. I was in single room accommodation back then and knew any firearms etc would have to stay at BIsley I had no problems at all with getting my ticket.
It sounds like you are quite worried, why not phone up the FET team which covers the area you are thinking of moving to and chat with them. Ultimately it is them who will making the decission. Personally I think you have already shown that you are a safe and trusted person and they would be very hard pressed to revoke your FAC,
DM
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:43 am
by Gaz
Does transferring force area mean the receiving force effectively goes through the grant/vetting process again on an existing ticket?
If so surely that's unlawful, as there is no legal provision allowing them to do so?
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:57 am
by Sim G
Gaz wrote:Does transferring force area mean the receiving force effectively goes through the grant/vetting process again on an existing ticket?
If so surely that's unlawful, as there is no legal provision allowing them to do so?
No, I don't believe so, but that said, a "review" does take place and I'm sure that's part of the renewal process. But when I moved force areas, I had a Colt AR 15, several pistols on FAC, and an 18" barrelled, seven shot 12 gauge on shot gun certificate! Oh happy days..... Things are a tad different now.
And as for legal provision, everything under UK law is legal, unless there is provision to prevent it. Unlike the Continent, where everything is illegal unless the law allows it, is a good general rule of thumb...

Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:05 am
by Polchraine
Sim G wrote:
And as for legal provision, everything under UK law is legal, unless there is provision to prevent it. Unlike the Continent, where everything is illegal unless the law allows it, is a good general rule of thumb...

Not quite complete:
In general. For individuals in the UK, everything is legal unless there is provision to prevent it. For companies nothing is legal unless there is provision to permit it.
Re: moving to new force area (met) petentional legal problem
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:12 am
by Polchraine
Which part of the Met area? I was moved from one admin area and FET team to another for one renewal and the service was poor. I was then moved back and everything was back to good service.