Page 1 of 5
Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:48 am
by SevenSixTwo
A Google search on this brings up many conflicting arguments, including a vague mention of case law that it does count.
Can someone clarify?
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 5:06 am
by Mr_Logic
Not Imho but not checked the absolute law here.
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:58 am
by IainWR
^ What he said.
Home Office guidance on the subject:
It will be noted
that the definition of ammunition does
not include ingredients and components
of ammunition; it is only assembled
ammunition that is controlled under the
Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge
cases, for example, are not “ammunition”.
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:01 am
by SevenSixTwo
Thanks. I'm betting that NI rules are somehow different!
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:29 am
by Mattnall
IainWR wrote:^ What he said.
Home Office guidance on the subject:
It will be noted
that the definition of ammunition does
not include ingredients and components
of ammunition; it is only assembled
ammunition that is controlled under the
Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge
cases, for example, are not “ammunition”.
However, there is precedence that primed cases were deemed to be ammunition when carried in a public place. At home you should be OK. I will try to find case reference.
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:54 am
by SevenSixTwo
Thanks. Bear in mind we're not talking Home Office here but Northern Ireland Office. I should have clarified when I first posted.
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:07 am
by saddler
Mattnall wrote:IainWR wrote:^ What he said.
Home Office guidance on the subject:
It will be noted
that the definition of ammunition does
not include ingredients and components
of ammunition; it is only assembled
ammunition that is controlled under the
Act, not component parts. Empty cartridge
cases, for example, are not “ammunition”.
However, there is precedence that primed cases were deemed to be ammunition when carried in a public place. At home you should be OK. I will try to find case reference.
Any further information on this "precedence"?
Strikes me as VERY strange...what with blank rounds not needing any certification..
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:35 pm
by Mattnall
saddler wrote:
Any further information on this "precedence"?
Strikes me as VERY strange...what with blank rounds not needing any certification..
That depends upon what you do with them
Still looking, I have the info here somewhere.
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:43 pm
by SevenSixTwo
According to this:
http://www.psni.police.uk/servlets31_9.pdf blank cartridges require permission so I'm guessing a primed case is viewed as the same?
No info anywhere on how many you can obtain/store...
At what stage of assembly does a round become "ammunition"?
Re: Does a primed case count towards your hold limit?
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:02 pm
by Sim G
762, are primers themselves recorded on FAC? If so, then I'd see primed cases falling into this in "Norn Iron". A very different kettle of fish, the Province.