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Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:25 am
by DOGGER2UK
What is the temperature of the propellant gasses at the muzzle? Specifically Reloader 17 or Vit N140 fired in barrels 660mm and 715 mm long.

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:31 pm
by Sim G
Why? I struggle to find the possible need for such information...

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:43 pm
by Dombo63
Googled it for you:
"temperature rifle gas at muzzle"

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-090.htm

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:58 pm
by pe4king
Dombo63 wrote:Googled it for you:
"temperature rifle gas at muzzle"

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-090.htm
It doesn't answer the question though does it, it only explains the process.
Anyway my deduction would be it is "kin hot", and reminds me of an old engineer saying " don't put your finger where you wouldn't put your willy" or words to that effect.
I'm sure the answer is out there somewhere.

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:17 pm
by Dombo63
Here you go, trawling down from that same Google search:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 8076900201

between 1645K and 2500Kfor a 7.62 round.

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:55 pm
by meles meles
Sim G wrote:Why? I struggle to find the possible need for such information...

Maybe he's doing a computational fluid dynamics study into the expansion and cooling of the emergent gases in order to make a better moderator, or contemplating what material best withstands high temperature gas erosion.

Well, that's why we needed to know anyway...

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:13 pm
by Sim G
But for only two specific powders, from two specific barrel lengths....? Sounds like a point of diminishing returns....

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:15 pm
by meles meles
Diminishing returns is what you wants from a moderator, ooman...

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:17 pm
by Sim G
meles meles wrote:Diminishing returns is what you wants from a moderator, ooman...

signfunnypost

That raised a smile, Shaving Brush.

Re: Gasses

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:19 pm
by DOGGER2UK
The Badger is close…I need to find a high temperature grease to help form a gas seal, with an O ring, in a moderator. However the moderator and muzzle brake are of stainless steel and I have been advised that “copper slip” type high temp lubricants may react with the stainless.
Thanks for the other useful replies ..especially pe4king’s… At least you’ll get a DSO for that Kev!