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Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:32 am
by dromia
After Dave's post on the Lee Loader I thought it timely to repost this thread.

Here is an old series of photographs of me teaching the bairn to handload 308 with a lee Loader. The thing I like about the Lee Loaders is that they are robust and well made pieces of kit unlike a lot of Lee's products, also they neck size only bottleneck cases.

I also have a modest collection of their now sadly out of production Target loaders wich feature the old Lee hand primer without the primer tray, much beloved by bench rest shooters for its legendary feel, they also have included in the kit an inside neck reamer for bullet concentricity along with the OAL length adjusting part being marked for micro adjusting.

Set up ready to go.


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For throwing the powder I use a Ohaus Duo Measure mounted in my redding T7 press.


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Step 1 Depriming the fired and cleaned case.

Setting the case in the depriming base.


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Inserting the depriming rod, you need to feel the decap pin entering the flash hole.


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Knock out the primer with a brisk tap of the soft faced hammer. I set the base over a bolt hole in the bench and the primers drop though to be collected in a plastic container on a shelf underneath.


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Step 2 neck sizing.

The case is dropped into the die body.


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Drive the case into the die with the hammer 'till the base is flush with the die.


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Step 3 Priming

Some people have had primers go off during this stage, its not really a problem if you keep your hand away from the top of the die body and wear safety glasses, its just a bit discorncerting. I radius the primer pocket slightly with a deburr tool and have found that this prevents primer detonation.

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Putting the primer in the priming base.


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Locating the case still in the die body over the priming base.

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Inserting the priming rod.


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A tap with the hammer.............


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...........and a perfectly seated primer.


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Step 4 Removing the case from the die.

With the priming rod still in place put the die onto the decapping base.


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Tap out with the hammer but leaving the case in the die.

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Step 5 throwing the powder.

Measure is set up to dispense the desired charge.

I use a fired cartridge here for transferring the powder, nowadays I'd trickle up with my Target Master and scales.

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Check the powder level in the case.


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Place the powder funnel in the top of the die body and decant the measured charge into the case through the die.


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Step 6 seating the bullet.

The bullet seating depth is adjusted by turning the top part of the die body in or out to give the desired seating depth/OAL.


Removing the funnel from the die pick up a bullet and drop it base end first thought the hole in the top of the die.


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Insert the seating tool rod into the die after the bullet.


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Tap with the hammer 'till the seating tool meets the top of the die, almost there.


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Lift the die body of the round and there you have it a perfectly crafted 308 cartridge and a happy hand loader. :good:


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Time to load 50 rounds with care 70 minutes.

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:13 pm
by knewmans
That looks like a really straightforward inexpensive way to start reloading.

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:17 pm
by dromia
Certainly is, a set of good scales and a suitable dipper and you are good to go. Throw in a powder trickler and you have the de-luxe set up. :good:

Cases do need to be once fired in the rifle they are being hand loaded for.

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:20 pm
by Sandgroper
knewmans wrote:That looks like a really straightforward inexpensive way to start reloading.
That's how I started and built up from there. :good:

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:34 pm
by dromia
Its a bit like soft drugs to get you onto the hard stuff. :twisted:

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:10 pm
by stottycake
What good pics and very interesting :good: ,for a noobi like me whos busy buying reloading gear .
to see that you don't have to have every gadget to get started.
having said that you cant help yourself sometimes and you have to get those shiney new bits and bobs.
;) stotty

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:34 pm
by SevenSixTwo
dromia wrote:Cases do need to be once fired in the rifle they are being hand loaded for.
Can you explain why? New to all this.

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:06 pm
by Alpha1
The tool under discussion the Lee Loader is designed to resize the NECK OF THE CASE ONLY.
Normal full length dies re size the NECK and the BODY of the case.
A full length re sized case will work in any rifle chambered for the calibre you are re loading for.

Neck sized cases will only fit the gun they were originally fired in because the case on firing is fire formed to fit that chamber.

If you are new to re loading you should full length re size with standard dies. Only move on to neck sizing when you fully understand the process.

Lee loader neck dies are not a easy short cut to re loading you need to have a good understating of the difference between full length re sizing and neck sizing before you consider getting in to using a set of these dies.

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:11 pm
by SevenSixTwo
That makes sense, thanks.

Re: Lee Loader Reprise Reprise.

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:00 am
by kennyc
Alpha1 wrote:The tool under discussion the Lee Loader is designed to resize the NECK OF THE CASE ONLY.
Normal full length dies re size the NECK and the BODY of the case.
A full length re sized case will work in any rifle chambered for the calibre you are re loading for.

Neck sized cases will only fit the gun they were originally fired in because the case on firing is fire formed to fit that chamber.

If you are new to re loading you should full length re size with standard dies. Only move on to neck sizing when you fully understand the process.

Lee loader neck dies are not a easy short cut to re loading you need to have a good understating of the difference between full length re sizing and neck sizing before you consider getting in to using a set of these dies.
not entirely true, the Lee Loader was designed to allow people to buy factory ammo and fire it in their own rifle, then reload the cases to a higher standard but lower cost, understanding neck sizing isn't important in this context as long as you follow the instructions, you are right however in saying that the reloaded round should only be used in the rifle from which they were fired.