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Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:30 pm
by meles meles
Well oomans, after much nigglin' and nagglin', we're contemplating take up the Blacke Arte of paw loading. We have a few rifles that we're finding it hard to get good ammo for, or ammo at a reasonabubble price (exemplis gratia, MAS 36), a few others where we think a paw load would perhaps be kinder to the gun than factory ammo (our noggin Krag Jorgensen 6.5x55 Swedish), and a few others where we think a sub-sonic load would be useful (our Goblinator, for instance). We shoot mainly at 300 yards and sometimes at 600 yards, so we don't need hypervelocity.

What books should we read ?

Who should we talk to ?

Where do we learn ?

Are there courses?

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:43 pm
by IainWR
If you live within digging distance, the Surrey RA at Bisley have a very good reloading room, buy the components in bulk and have several people who can tell you exactly how its done. You do have to be a member, but if I wanted to get into reloading, I'd be down there applying like a shot.

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:55 pm
by meles meles
IainWR wrote: applying like a shot.

Wouldn't that get us stuffed in a cartridge and blasted at some goose?

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:02 pm
by Dougan
You probably already know as much as the 'ABC's of Reloading' will tell you - The 'recipes' themselves are in various manuals (I use a Viht manual, as I use Viht powder), but the 'how to' information can be found on YouTube, and asking specific questions on here...but right at the start, it's a good idea to ask an experienced fellow club member to show you the basics.

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:04 pm
by EagerNoSkill
facilis descensus Averni
1618, from L., lit. "the descent of Avernus (is) easy" [Virgil, "Aeneid," VI.126], in ref. to Avernus, a deep lake near Puteoli, a reputed entrance to the underworld; hence, "it is easy to slip into moral ruin."

Reloading is a very slippery slope in to the dark art of Alchemy and convert paper into lead and smoke!

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:25 pm
by Dougan
Noticed this while looking on Fleebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BASIC-HANDLOA ... 1c3090586e

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:28 am
by meles meles
Buggrit ! We have just ordered a copy of Lymans's 49th tome upon the Blacke Arte...

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:37 am
by dromia
You won't go wrong with the Lyman, its one of the best handloading books out there.

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:54 pm
by Dougan
meles meles wrote:Buggrit ! We have just ordered a copy of Lymans's 49th tome upon the Blacke Arte...
Sorry stripey, I would have suggested this, but wasn't sure how serious you were about starting loading - Most books describe the 'how to' bits in a similar way, but the Lymans is very detailed and has lots of cartridge and bullet info that makes it a reference book to keep - Droomie gave me a good deal on a copy last year at the Trafalgar :good:

My only criticism of it is that as it covers so many calibers the actual load data (i.e the amount of powder to use for a specific bullet) is limited, so you will still need a specific manual for the powder you intend to use - But that's no problem as Vihtavouri, for example, will send you their loading data manual for free...

Re: Facilis decensus averni, cogitum meles meles.

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:00 pm
by meles meles
Dougan wrote: but wasn't sure how serious you were about starting loading -

... neither are we. We were dead set against it when we started shooting, but those little siren voices keep tempting us...