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Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:12 pm
by raybrown53
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:16 pm
by SevenSixTwo
Are people who have a history of domestic abuse any more likely to snap than someone who doesn't?
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:17 pm
by Sim G
From what I've read of the comments by the coroner, it is how the police manage firearms licensing.
"Gun law reform" is the BBC spin.....
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:19 pm
by Sim G
SevenSixTwo wrote:Are people who have a history of domestic abuse any more likely to snap than someone who doesn't?
From my days in CID, yes.
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:43 pm
by Polchraine
So, where can I shoot deer with a shotgun?
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:45 pm
by SevenSixTwo
Sim G wrote:SevenSixTwo wrote:Are people who have a history of domestic abuse any more likely to snap than someone who doesn't?
From my days in CID, yes.
What it should have said then is people who have a
known history of domestic abuse.
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:51 pm
by Mr_Logic
Also, shotgun has a right to ownership - police must prove a case against you. And a good thing too!
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:57 pm
by SevenSixTwo
You still need 'good reason' though, do you not?
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:28 pm
by phaedra1106
Not really, not the same way as you do with an FAC. With an SGC if the police can't give a reason why you shouldn't be granted one then you have the right to be granted one.
The thing that annoyed me was the coroner said "he accepted no-one in the Firearms Licensing Unit was guilty of acting in bad faith" what complete b@ll@cks, there were notes put on his file by the FEO opposing his grant and they were completely ignored by senior management.
Re: Usual Accurate BBC reporting.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:42 pm
by simong
Evening Peeps,
Its going to be the usual twaddle.....its them shooting folk thats the problem !!!
Yet another case of plod not doing his job, whilst having a shower, a thought came to me ( its like those that happen at 02:00 except that I can remember this one ).
Surely the Chief Constable of the concerned County ( works for Hungerford and Dunblane as well as Durham ), should be charged with Corporate Manslaughter ? If the Director of a Company has not fulfilled his management responsibilities and some body dies a a result, then they get charged ( at the very least under Health and Safety legislation " duty of care ? )
Especially when in the case of Dunblane and Hungerford, people and rank and file plod expressed concerns ( I can't remember which section of the HASAWA "Health and Sasfety at Work act applies but there is a section that deals with "acts and omissions" basically if you see a problem and do nothing, somebody gets hurt, its your fault! and quite right too IMHO)
' course nothing fair will happen, just be very grovelling to wives, mistresses, mother in laws, traffic wardens etc..... just in case they get asked at your next renewall !
Oh and they ask for a reason for having a shotgun, but its still a case of them (Plod) trying to find a reason why you shouldn't have one.
Just my 2p worth
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