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I've got a choice of two "club" rifles in my quest for my 1st 100x100 at 25m
A Brno mod2 with a 4x40 scope (I'm getting 93ish ..)
And a BSA century with aperture sights ( used it once and got a 91)
Which rifle do you think I should stick with folks ?

The Beezer !

Because of the sights or the rifle itself ?

The rifle and the sights...

zzr1100 wrote:I've got a choice of two "club" rifles in my quest for my 1st 100x100 at 25m
A Brno mod2 with a 4x40 scope (I'm getting 93ish ..)
And a BSA century with aperture sights ( used it once and got a 91)
Which rifle do you think I should stick with folks ?

Ahh! I think we have chatted before. If you're serious about improving then I thing you should go back to basics and develop techniques such as good trigger control, breathing, position etc.

A few years ago budding target shooters would have honed their skills shooting .22/25yd competitions every week at their local rifle range (almost every town had one)

The rifles used were only ever single shot, often a 30 year old rifle that only had aperture sights and a trigger pull of 3lbs if you were lucky. These rifle were shot from the prone position and the only support allowed was a webbing sling.

A reasonable club level shot, with these rifles, would be scoring in the low to mid 90's as an average, these targets were carefully marked using shot hole gauges and the scores entered for national league matches.

Now, forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think you are shooting from a standing position with a bi-pod or rest on what may well be a 25yd pistol target.

Both rifles are fairly accurate (but not match accuracy) Stick with the Beezer and serve the apprenticeship - it will pay off in the long run.

This is the type of target used for match shooting. (Prone, unsupported, iron sights)

And this this is a 25yd pistol target (shot one handed, unsupported)

I'm shooting the 10 roundel target .. Standing but with my elbows on a "shelf" no bipod or sling ..
Scoring the hard way .. Cut the line and score down

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Tonight's target with the BSA

zzr1100 wrote:http://s1300.beta.photobucket.com/user/ ... 8.jpg.html
Tonight's target with the BSA

Ok - That looks promising, stick with the BSA, it might not be as cool as the Bruno but you will learn quicker with it. At first glance, assuming you are right handed, the target shows all the signs of trigger snatching. Seven of the ten shots have pulled to the left and down, now, this is where "learning the ropes" comes into play. By cranking the sight right three clicks and up one would give you about another four points, it wouldn't improve your shooting just your score.

By moving the sights to get a better score you will be reinforcing bad practice, getting it right now will set you up for a lifetime of good shooting - Target shooting is fun, it's even more fun when you can hold your own against your club mates.

Once you have the basics sorted the skill tranfers across to all forms of shooting whether you go on to F-class, benchrest, etc.

Looking again at the target it looks like the shots to the left half are better than the shots to the right of the target, this is possibly due to your stance. Set yourself up and sight up ready to shoot, now just shut your eyes and relax and count to 10, when you open your eyes the rifle should still be pointing at the target, if not, move your feet, not the rifle.

When pulling the trigger, use the pad of your finger, not wrap it round the trigger blade and smoothly increase pressure in a direct line, imagine the trigger is connected to the foresight, the idea is to drag the foresight back through the rear sight.

Wear elbow pads, get a sling, shoot off the ground, keep you targets and you will soon see a real improvement.

Shooting clays with a lever action rifle agains the clock is great fun but we all have to start somewhere.

What a good thread, especially the last post.

I think it shows the spirit of this forum and shooting/sportsmanship

That's great advice , thanks very much !