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p14 regimental number
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:51 pm
by BrunelTR
I have a p14 (17?) stock with the regimental number s.a.s 586. Does anyone know how I can find out the name of the regiment that corresponds to this number?
Chris
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:14 pm
by BrunelTR
Actually s.a.s 563. Couldnt remember off the top of my head!
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:51 pm
by Charlotte the flyer
A quick google says that SAS could be 'Small Arms School'
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Yygj ... CDcQ6AEwAg
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:54 am
by Rearlugs
Post a photo, as lot can depend upon context. Is the mark on the brass butt disk, or stamped into the wood somewhere?
"SASC" would normally be the mark for the Small Arms School Corps.
P14s were never used in UK as a first line weapon (apart from a few sniper conversions), so a regimental mark is not usually seen. P14s were used by training units, home guard, schools & cadet forces - and by several overseas countries.
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:09 am
by dromia
Indeed photos would be good, bear in mind that the disk might not be original to the rifle.
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:47 pm
by huntervixen
Rearlugs wrote:Post a photo, as lot can depend upon context. Is the mark on the brass butt disk, or stamped into the wood somewhere?
"SASC" would normally be the mark for the Small Arms School Corps.
P14s were never used in UK as a first line weapon (apart from a few sniper conversions), so a regimental mark is not usually seen. P14s were used by training units, home guard, schools & cadet forces - and by several overseas countries.
I sold a de-activated Enfield No.2 Mk I* revolver last year marked with "4 SAS". This was confirmed to have been once a Small Arms School Example.
It would make sense for the SASC to have a number of P14's during the war to assist in Home Guard training, Peter Laidler could help more with this, I'll ask him this week.
Cheers, John
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:33 pm
by BrunelTR
Small Arms School seems about right. Thanks for the help guys. Cheers for the email John, I need to post some more before I am deemed worthy of using the email system so apologies for the lack of reply.
I have attached an image of the number on the butt. Unfortunately due to a camera malfunction (which may or may not have involved a beer or three) I have had to resort to the laptop webcam so its a bit blurry
Chris
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:37 pm
by huntervixen
No Problem mate, happy to help.
Thats the great thing about shooting Service rifles, they all have an interesting story to tell.
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:05 am
by Rearlugs
Er... that doesn't look like a British brass butt disk, which should be on the right side of the butt.
The disk shown looks like something added much later; and it also doesn't look circular (although photo quality is not sufficient to tell). Butt disks on the left side in other cases have been from Singapore, Malaya, Indonesia, Netherlands, etc.
Re: p14 regimental number
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:19 am
by huntervixen
Morning rearlugs,
Well this paints a different picture of things, Peter did confirm that P14's were used by the SASC and so would be property marked by them.
However as you say, on the left side of the butt is very unusual to say the least!
I wonder, if in this case it could be a South African Army butt disk with rack number?
Did they ever use P14's mate? Or is it a SMLE disc....HMMMM....questions, questions