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Interesting, so Switzerland, Poland and RoI so far ?

Maybe old habits die hard in places like Hungary and Romania - I wonder what the score is there ?

MTP at bisley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTJqkHPbYLQ

I really couldn't care less what anyone wears on the range, as long as it's not a middle aged, white male, wearing Lycra or a football shirt....

And if anyone thinks head to toe in camo gives the "wring impression", take a reality check. The public, the media and the government already have us pegged as unhinged and potentially dangerous! Get out and enjoy....

Sim G wrote:I really couldn't care less what anyone wears on the range, as long as it's not a middle aged, white male, wearing Lycra or a football shirt....

And if anyone thinks head to toe in camo gives the "wring impression", take a reality check. The public, the media and the government already have us pegged as unhinged and potentially dangerous! Get out and enjoy....

Football shirts remind me too much of Grimsby now, a film I thought was unfair to a town that has no control over how people like that screw them over. Plus it's tacky. I agree with you on Lycra as well, I'm guessing you know the term MAMIL (middle aged man in lycra)?

Nah, just I took the dog for a run around the forest today and there were more fat, middle aged men on mountain bikes, than there were kids....!!!

breacher wrote:So, let me get this straight - wearing military type clothing is frowned upon for "perception issues" ? Those wearing it might be walts ?

Yet, if anybody mentions "perception issues" relating to military type firearms, they get told they are prejudiced ? Is someone who chooses a AR type .22 over a Ruger 10/22 ( despite them being available in the same calibre and capacity ) a walt too ?

What about those who festoon their .22 AR with tactical items ? Are they walts too ?

What about those who paint their rifles in desert camo patterns ? I can understand woodland type camo on a hunting rifle but on a target rifle unlikely ever to see the desert ? Is the owner a walt ?

Double standards ?

As to who REALLY has the problem with shooters wearing camo ? Its NOT non-shooters. Its other SHOOTERS - those who shoot their own type of competition but have no TOLERANCE for other types of the same sport.

Fluffy, if I did not know you mate I would scratch my head over this. What was your service number....666?

Perception has sod all to do with it

You know exactly what people mean by walts. Its only the walts that anyone really gives a toss about. Walts are only (as far as I have ever understood and experienced it) those who actively (or by simply not correcting people when it is suggested) seek to deceive. And I am sorry but with that sort of mentality do you want these people armed as well?

Incidentally, the so called "SAS" smock was never exclusively issued to the "SAS". It was issued to just about everyone that was AMFL or went anywhere cold and wet.

Likewise Parkas, not just for Op Corporate/Paraquat.

I used a para smock for years with a windproof packed as a spare because it folded down to sod all. Any fool can be uncomfortable....but it was allowed, legal, and I only ever wore our eagle of the 24 Airmob Kentucky fried griffin wings on it.

later issues of smock were damned near the same and on general issue, I have a collection of the things (several of which were issued, several are cheap copies that do just as well, although oddly NOT and SAS or windproof smock, they wear out in 5 anyway) and wont usually use anything much else, they are just so bloody practical.

The bottom line again is that if you are not serving and dont belong to some sort of re-enactment group you have no legal or moral right to wear the full uniform and insignia of our armed forces, and even less so imply that you are or were serving when that is not the case.

It has sod all to do with wearing MTP, or full waterproof MTP kit when you are shooting CSR etc and you know that. It has to do with integrity, and not riding on the backs of (in some cases) people who gave their all and are still giving.

s***, I am a CFAV with the ACF like Fred, but you wont catch me wearing the stuff unless I am actively on or travelling to or from cadet activities, it clearly shows I am with the ACF, and I still feel wrong but privileged to wear the KRH "Hawk" as a cap badge. It is a privilege so I do my best to look smart and carry it, unlike many walts!!

Even then as an armoured baby sitter, regardless of my background, I still have to do train for over a year and satisfy various tests in order to do so. Not just buy it online and let public ignorance fill in the gaps

My old UBACS or that scabby old green smock is my limit mate with the goretex when it p*** down.

Sim G wrote:Nah, just I took the dog for a run around the forest today and there were more fat, middle aged men on mountain bikes, than there were kids....!!!

Not me mate...I would be in boots and a scabby old smock sweating my fat useless hide off with the dog clapclap

s***, I am a CFAV with the ACF like Fred

Nah. Fred knows what he is talking about

Page 10 ! Are we doing this, please make stop.

ChrisB wrote:s***, I am a CFAV with the ACF like Fred

Nah. Fred knows what he is talking about

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