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One rape is too many but all I will say Blu is divide 22,116 by 53.9 million the latter figure being the population of England.

It is rare taken against the whole population.

"It's rare so long as it's not me or a loved one of mine"...

Must be nice to live in that bubble where it doesn't matter so long as it doesn't affect you...

Fedaykin wrote:One rape is too many but all I will say Blu is divide 22,116 by 53.9 million the latter figure being the population of England.

It is rare taken against the whole population.

FFS....

Fedaykin wrote:One rape is too many but all I will say Blu is divide 22,116 by 53.9 million the latter figure being the population of England.

It is rare taken against the whole population.

And I still say that 11,058 is far from being rare. Especially compared to say Germany with 83 million and reported rape cases of 7000. Then lets not forget how many of those numbers of population are women alone, kind of cuts all population numbers in half which makes the numbers of reported rape cases even more appalling.

How? How is it damaging to our sport? What exactly does it damage?

In the meantime I have a question Chuck, are you prepared to pay with increased taxes if concealed carry was allowed for in our country? Explain later unless you guess the point first....

Why should our taxes go up? Have they gone up for all legal FAC?SGC holders??/ How much of our money is spent on victims of crime as it is? How much is wasted on police time bringing criminals to court only for them to be released? Do you not at the end of the day thing people should have a CHOICE?

If carry was legal as of NOW, what do you think would happen?. Should all those murder, rape and assault victims not have protection??? After all, it saves ONE LIFE! It is NOT the gun that is effective, it is the possibility that an intended victim may just be armed - that is the deterrent!

They don't even trust the majority of police to carry firearms, so civilians have no chance. So we can debate the pros and cons but its not going to happen.

Ordnance: sad but true.

doesnt NI still have concealed carry? also some eastern european countries allow lience holders to also carry their pistols ! in the us sates that allow VETTED shooters to carry firearms they hasnt been a problem ! they do not commit massacres, shoot other people over aurgments ! in fact crimes have gone down! if their was a problem they (state government) would put a stop to it! to carry a pistol for defence in those us sates you have to a liance from the local police and have to undergo training so its not a free for all !

bottom line if one is deemed suitable and a fit person to hold a firearm cerficate then he is fit to carry a firearm end of story ( however it would wise that before he is allowed to carry, he goes undergoes training )

I have a shooting buddy in the US, who's father has a concealed carry permit and was involved in a violent road rage incident with a much younger driver.

He didn't need to pull his pistol, he just showed the guy his permit and the situation was immediately defused!

ukrifleman.