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Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:13 pm
by legs748
Most of the posts here regard to bisley, ranges with safe butts with markers. Camo clothing is by design made to break up the human form. On say a 200/300m no danger area range where shooters can shoot without RO and must go forward to change targets it could be possible for the inattentive to miss a becammoed shooter down range with grim consequences. Would it then not be sensible to dissuade people wearing it? During my day job I wear bright orange from head to toe, to make sure the operators of 1000 ton 125mph death machines can see me, and therefore alert me to their approach, sensible really.
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:46 pm
by Blu
could be possible for the inattentive to miss a becammoed shooter down range with grim consequences.
Legs, over here we don't have RCO's on the range to control things. The way we work it is we wait until all have stopped shooting and someone will ask if all are clear. Bolts are open, everyone shows clear and steps back from the firearms. Those that want to go down range and retrieve or check targets do so, those left behind under no circumstances touch the firearms until those down range are back and the range is again declared hot.
This is a system that I have been used to for 30 something years and to date no has been shot irrespective of the clothing worn (camo included). Hell even without and RCO present if you guys can't sort something out between yourselves then I'm wondering if more than one person should be shooting at any given time just in case.
C'mon mate, hell even someone wearing camo is not hard to distinguish on a shooting range, it's not like they will be crawling around on their belly.
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:01 pm
by 450 Martini
Speaking about Dress impressions at Bisley; some friends of mine are members of a reenactment group who hold their own AGM over a weekend at Bisley. This includes a days shooting on the ranges in full 1880's Victorian military uniform (which looks awesome). No-one has ever pulled them up on their manner of dress but then i guess it's hard to approach a whole platoon and to ask them to leave.
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:10 pm
by karen
Its not hard to approach a whole platoon and ask them to leave if they are doing something wrong or dangerous - I certainly would!
But I can't see anyone being offended by Victorian Military uniforms - can you?
We used to have a couple of guys dressed in historic uniforms at the Open Days - caused a lot of interest from the visitors as it was obvious that it was historic and they were not about to shoot anyone (or even poke them with a bayonet!

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Love
Karen
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:32 pm
by meles meles
...and if they were dressed as snipers and any good at it, you wouldn't see them anyway !
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:11 am
by Blackstuff
450 Martini wrote:Speaking about Dress impressions at Bisley; some friends of mine are members of a reenactment group who hold their own AGM over a weekend at Bisley. This includes a days shooting on the ranges in full 1880's Victorian military uniform (which looks awesome). No-one has ever pulled them up on their manner of dress but then i guess it's hard to approach a whole platoon and to ask them to leave.
There is, is there not though a percieved difference to some between people dressed up/reenacting historical units/soldiers and people dressed in the same manner as modern soldiers. The same distinction is often made with firearms too. To some its perfectly acceptable to want to own and use historical rifles yet the same people can take umbridge at someone wanting to own the latest offerings.
Its a funny old world.
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:12 am
by Meaty
Blackstuff wrote:450 Martini wrote:Speaking about Dress impressions at Bisley; some friends of mine are members of a reenactment group who hold their own AGM over a weekend at Bisley. This includes a days shooting on the ranges in full 1880's Victorian military uniform (which looks awesome). No-one has ever pulled them up on their manner of dress but then i guess it's hard to approach a whole platoon and to ask them to leave.
There is, is there not though a percieved difference to some between people dressed up/reenacting historical units/soldiers and people dressed in the same manner as modern soldiers. The same distinction is often made with firearms too. To some its perfectly acceptable to want to own and use historical rifles yet the same people can take umbridge at someone wanting to own the latest offerings.
Its a funny old world.
I have found exactly the same. One of our club ranges is on the outskirts of an RSPB nature reserve and the footpath to the various hides runs directly past the rear of the firing positions (a small bank and a barbed wire fence in between). We have a large amount of people stopping to have a look when we are shooting black powder and underlevers, with the majority of folks seeming genuinely fascinated, so much so that we have had a good few enquiries about membership. When the .22 'black' guns come out to play it is as if we are in league with the devil

with mutterings of "that's illegal, I'm calling the police" etc etc.
Tis a strange logic that has been drummed into the sheeple by the media etc.
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:53 am
by Rburro2
I wear what i feel comfortable in. Combats are comfy end of and practical and best of all cheap. I dont wear matching anything as id look a tit now that my belly is as wide as my shoulders(doing something about this though). Boots yes generally ankle supporting boots as there are run downs in my chosen discipline and century is hardly a bowling green. I do use trouser twists not as a fashion statement but to stop the water from being sucked up by my nice dry trousers. I hope my garb does not offend people but if it offends there delicate nature look away. In other words jog on if you dont like it.
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:55 am
by breacher
Maggot, re you fancying a sniper smock if only you could find one ?
Have you "earned the right" to wear a sniper smock by having completed the appropriate course then ?
I wore a rather nice SADF para smock - plain dark brown, no camo, at Bisley and was asked by a South African if I had done the course etc. I told him to go forth and multiply as I wear what I want to wear !
The original SAS smocks were SF issue. Does that mean I cannot wear one BUT can wear the later ripstop one that was on general issue as I was never SF ?
TA and cadets wear the uniform. Have they earned the right to wear surplus too or is it only regulars ?
Should I also throw away my nice met police traffic parka as I only ever "earned the right" to wear the non traffic issue version ?
I might agree about not wearing insignia or medals not earned but I think you are bordering on the pedantic to insist that only ex forces people can wear surplus clothing !!!
Re: Dress impressions
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:45 am
by froggy
Mushrooms & chestnuts picking season is approaching in France... the woods will soon fill up with dangerous impersonators suffering from psychotic murderous tendencies dressed in various combat gears ... maybe they after the "wrong ones" to prepare WMD ... beware ... can somebody call the police please ?