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Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:21 am
by Demonic69
I'll happily lodge any air rifles for you guys :-)
So much for democracy!
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 7:30 am
by Countryman
Great case of careful what you wish for or more importantly vote for.
What you lose through moves like this you will never get back.
I voiced my opinion as a Southerner to the consultation. Of course the consultation was simply discarded.
Good luck in May but I suspect you are sunk on this matter. Best hope would be to overwhelm the authorities with applications for Air Gun licences.
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:30 pm
by Daniel11
I disagree,
Not for a moment would I suggest breaking Scots Law, but if very few applied for licenses, when the SNP have already announced how many 'Air Weapons' they think there are in circulation, and if the license numbers were well below this figure, they would be left looking rather silly, with the plain fact being that there would be 1000's of illegal 'weapons' in circulation, by their own admission, yet they would have no idea who had them or where. Loss of Control is an elected Tyrants worst nightmare.
Perhaps if this was seen to have failed so obviously and disastrously, it wouldn't spread elsewhere.
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:16 pm
by Chuck
Daniel 11 - don't break the law - just say "NO" - or "forget".
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:08 am
by Daniel11
Why not send air rifles south? That wouldn't be breaking the law, yet it would still show this policy to be what it is: unenforceable.
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:25 am
by Ian
Can anyone in Berkshire chrono my Diana model 1 to see if it is under one Joule?
It was my first gun some sixty years ago and I would hate to lose it on a move to Scotland.
I cannot understand how this law will work, especially as most air guns do not have a serial number. Will they have to be sent to the proof-house to be serialised at great cost or is it really the owner that is being licenced to hold, say, three 'air weapons'?
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:15 am
by 25Pdr
Daniel11 wrote:Why not send air rifles south? That wouldn't be breaking the law, yet it would still show this policy to be what it is: unenforceable.
Just what I did, I sent this particularly rare Park Air Rifle to live in Surrey, the rest were sold to a collector and I can't remember his name.
I'm having nothing to do with any future SNP legislation.
Alex Salmond has just said he identifies himself with Nelson Mandela. 
Nuff said.
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:49 am
by Chuck
I'm having nothing to do with any future SNP legislation.
Alex Salmond has just said he identifies himself with Nelson Mandela.
Nuff said.
Aye he (Mandela) was a terrorist too and he never renounced violence - and Scotland has loads of that!.
I wonder why Scotland wants to ban guns yet there are more and more armed police about. History shows that can only be bad!
The best bet is to disarm the police first and see how that goes - after all, the police don't need guns do they - not since handguns were stolen years ago and guns were "taken off the streets"!!
Meanwhile the usual blights of Scotland (footie violence, thuggery, vandalism, bigotry, domestic violence and drugs) will continue as usual as that's way too difficult for Salmond and the police to sort out - much easier fix a NON problem eh! I hear they want to flood the place with 20mph camera watched zones too -
mental idiots! Then again, it will raise money while contributing SFA to road safety!
Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:04 pm
by saddler
E-mail of approx 6pm today
Stage 1 Debate on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill
I am writing to inform you that the Scottish Parliament has today (1 April) agreed the time and date for the Stage 1 debate on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill.
The debate will take place on Thursday 23 April 2015, starting at 2.30pm. The purpose of the Stage 1 debate it to allow the full Parliament to debate the general principles (policy and purpose) of the Bill, as well as the findings and recommendations of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee’s Stage 1 report on the Bill. Immediately following the debate, the Parliament will vote on whether to approve the Bill at Stage 1.
The parliamentary debate will be open to the public on 23 April and tickets for the public gallery of the Debating Chamber can be booked, free of charge, by contacting the Parliament’s Visitor Service Department. You may also watch the debate live online on the Parliament’s broadcast website on the day.
What happens after Stage 1?
If the Parliament approves the Bill on 23 April, the Bill then moves on to Stage 2 (the amendment stage). Any MSP may seek to lodge amendments to the Bill as soon as it has passed at Stage 1.
However, the Scottish Parliament’s Standing Orders (Rule 9.5.3A.) states that the “minimum period that must elapse between the day on which Stage 1 is completed and the day on which Stage 2 starts is 12 sitting days”. A sitting day is any day when the office of the Clerk is open but not when the Parliament is in recess or dissolved. The Office of the Clerk is closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays.
This would mean that based on an end date of 23 April for Stage 1, and allowing for the fact the Office of the Clerk is closed on Monday 4 May as it is a public holiday, the earliest date on which a Committee could begin disposing of Stage 2 amendments is Wednesday 13 May. The deadline for MSPs to lodge amendments is 12-noon on the third sitting day before the day on which disposal of Stage 2 amendments starts.
All timings for the progress of a Bill are subject to change, should the business needs of the Parliament require. If any changes are made to the timetable for this Bill you will be notified by email.
Further information will be sent to you at the time of the Stage 1 debate.
Regards
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Re: Scotland to introduce airgun licensing law
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:20 pm
by Sixshot6
saddler wrote:E-mail of approx 6pm today
Stage 1 Debate on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill
I am writing to inform you that the Scottish Parliament has today (1 April) agreed the time and date for the Stage 1 debate on the Air Weapons and Licensing (Scotland) Bill.
The debate will take place on Thursday 23 April 2015, starting at 2.30pm. The purpose of the Stage 1 debate it to allow the full Parliament to debate the general principles (policy and purpose) of the Bill, as well as the findings and recommendations of the Local Government and Regeneration Committee’s Stage 1 report on the Bill. Immediately following the debate, the Parliament will vote on whether to approve the Bill at Stage 1.
The parliamentary debate will be open to the public on 23 April and tickets for the public gallery of the Debating Chamber can be booked, free of charge, by contacting the Parliament’s Visitor Service Department. You may also watch the debate live online on the Parliament’s broadcast website on the day.
What happens after Stage 1?
If the Parliament approves the Bill on 23 April, the Bill then moves on to Stage 2 (the amendment stage). Any MSP may seek to lodge amendments to the Bill as soon as it has passed at Stage 1.
However, the Scottish Parliament’s Standing Orders (Rule 9.5.3A.) states that the “minimum period that must elapse between the day on which Stage 1 is completed and the day on which Stage 2 starts is 12 sitting days”. A sitting day is any day when the office of the Clerk is open but not when the Parliament is in recess or dissolved. The Office of the Clerk is closed on Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays.
This would mean that based on an end date of 23 April for Stage 1, and allowing for the fact the Office of the Clerk is closed on Monday 4 May as it is a public holiday, the earliest date on which a Committee could begin disposing of Stage 2 amendments is Wednesday 13 May. The deadline for MSPs to lodge amendments is 12-noon on the third sitting day before the day on which disposal of Stage 2 amendments starts.
All timings for the progress of a Bill are subject to change, should the business needs of the Parliament require. If any changes are made to the timetable for this Bill you will be notified by email.
Further information will be sent to you at the time of the Stage 1 debate.
Regards
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The stitch up beings then I see.