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honsu wrote:The other thing is the sa80 can go full auto when it is needed.

Dougan did explicitly exclude FISH (Fighting In Somebody's House) from the battlefields to be considered. If engaging in FISH, or even something like the assault on Tumbledown where the entire battle was fought in the dark, before NVG became available to infantry, at less than 300 metres and mostly at 30 metres or less, then full-auto is worth having over almost any other capability. And at that point 5.56 is a good idea because you stand a much better chance of holding the weapon on target than even 7.62x39, never mind 7.62 NATO.

Iain

IainWR wrote:

honsu wrote:The other thing is the sa80 can go full auto when it is needed.

Dougan did explicitly exclude FISH (Fighting In Somebody's House) from the battlefields to be considered

Yes, to make a contrived argument even more contrived...I was only teasing the 'black-gunners' ( ) - In truth, it's horses for courses...there are many good light assault weapons (still not keen on the SA80 though) that would be much better than a No.4 in most circumstances....

...my father ditched his Jungle Carbine for an M1 Carbine in Malaya....