Repealing the Firearms (Amendment) No.2 Act

[Alpha1]

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Dave, Blu now lives in the USA.


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I missed that. Not to worry

Now that every one is in bed and its a bit quieter here I checked back through the posts yes you are right BLU Adam did post that you now live in the USA so why are you so bothered about the right to own hand guns in the UK. I would of thought you had enough problems with the Gun Nuts in the USA running around killing school Children.

[Blu]

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Dave, Blu now lives in the USA.


On this very thread


I missed that. Not to worry

Now that every one is in bed and its a bit quieter here I checked back through the posts yes you are right BLU Adam did post that you now live in the USA so why are you so bothered about the right to own hand guns in the UK. I would of thought you had enough problems with the Gun Nuts in the USA running around killing school Children.

As I stated in an earlier post on this thread if you had taken the time to read it. I am against any knee jerk reaction that punishes the majority of law abiding shooters because of the actions of a minority of "nutters" as you put it. To me it doesn't matter where it happens but just FYI I still have two brothers in the UK who are both SGC holders. Unlike you, because it doesn't directly affect me that doesn't mean I don't care. But then my name isn't JACK

BTW, here in the US we don't have a problem with the gun Nuts killing school children, what we have is a problem with is the laws that we have already in place not being enforced properly and other stupid laws that make it easy for the nuts to walk into schools and start murdering. If you do a little research on the topic you'll find that all the stupid anti gun laws that we have are put in place by anti gun politicians. They don't give a squat how many children die, just as long as they achieve their anti gun agenda it doesn't matter to them how many kids die.

Blu

[Alpha1]

BLU just a observation you need to chill out my friend go enjoy your shooting in the USA and leave us Guys in the UK to sort our own problems out.

[HALODIN]

There's only one question you need to answer - In the event [pistols|revolvers] were returned to the shooting community, what has changed that would prevent another Dunblane?

I suggest we answer the hard questions first. Was a responsible shooting community punished because the police failed to act on information that should have seen Thomas Hamilton's FAC revoked? If the answer is yes, then you have leverage. If you're serious about this, file a freedom of information request for documentation submitted to the Cullen Inquiry, that was sealed under a closure order. You have to approach this head on.

https://www.gov.uk/make-a-freedom-of-in ... mation-act

Sun Tzu - The Art of War ~ "Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories."

[HALODIN]

Dunblane: 100-year ban on report may be lifted

Scotland's leading law officer is considering lifting a 100-year closure order imposed on a police report into Thomas Hamilton, the Dunblane mass murderer, amid speculation that it links him with members of the Scottish establishment.
Colin Boyd QC, the Lord Advocate, bowed to political pressure and agreed to investigate publishing parts of the report written in 1991, five years before Hamilton killed 16 primary school pupils and their teacher.
The move announced after yesterday's Cabinet meeting follows suggestions that the reputations of a former cabinet minister as well as a prominent lawyer could be damaged by the document.
The decision to keep the report's contents secret for 100 years was made by Lord Cullen, the senior judge who conducted the official inquiry into the shootings.
According to the Crown Office, the reason the order was imposed was to protect the identities of children who were named as alleged victims of abuse in the report, which investigated incidents at a summer camp run by Hamilton.

At the weekend, Michael Matheson, the Scottish National Party deputy justice spokesman, said publication of the report was the only way to counter speculation that it had been deliberately suppressed.
After meeting with ministers, the Lord Advocate agreed to look at exercising his power to overturn Lord Cullen's ruling, provided the names of any child victims are deleted.

[Blu]

BLU just a observation you need to chill out my friend go enjoy your shooting in the USA and leave us Guys in the UK to sort our own problems out.

Hey no need to worry about me chilling out old son, I retired when I was 53 and have been enjoying shooting when I like and if I like. However seeing as we're making observations here's one for you. Instead of the I'm all right Jack attitude that you have now, trying pulling your head out of the sand and take a look at what's going on with regards to shooting in the UK, because as thing stand, you're the type of shooter the antis just love.

and leave us Guys in the UK to sort our own problems out

:lol: :lol: :lol: Hey JACK with your attitude, you are a part of the problem. Anyway I'm done, I'll waste no more time on a bigoted self serving old fool like you. :55:

Blu

[Sim G]

There's only one question you need to answer - In the event [pistols|revolvers] were returned to the shooting community, what has changed that would prevent another Dunblane?

Absolutely nothing. And that's the rub, society as a whole today, refuses or is incapable of accepting that there is risk in life. And that's risk of disease, disaster and other people. Strictly in terms of firearms, the type of firearm means nothing. All can be abused to one degree or another, but I'll grant you, it would be extremely difficult to go on a murderous spree with a single shot, muzzle loading, smoothbore, flintlock pistol.

And remember, the pistol was not the reason why Hamilton, nor was the AK the reason why Ryan (who did actually shoot more people with a Beretta) went on the rampage. We've actually had two spree shootings in the UK where the most common guns owned were used....

You could return full bore semi's and pistols to S1 tomorrow, but never negate the risk. All we have achieved is that the next mass shooting will not occur with a legally held cartridge firing handgun or a full bore semi auto rifle. Taking all guns out of private hands also does not negate the risk of another mass shooting. The risk is still there, just it wouldn't happen with a legally held gun...

[ordnance]

There's only one question you need to answer - In the event [pistols|revolvers] were returned to the shooting community, what has changed that would prevent another Dunblane?

Nothing just like nothing is stopping someone doing similar with a knife, rifle , shotgun. What is your issue with handguns , any firearm could be used to kill people you would be just as dead no matter what type of firearm was used. If your logic is less firearms less chance of someone going on a killing spree, why don't you help that happen by handing in any firearms you have. ?

Gun Nuts in the USA running around killing school Children.

What makes someone a gun nut. ?

[Demonic69]

There's only one question you need to answer - In the event [pistols|revolvers] were returned to the shooting community, what has changed that would prevent another Dunblane?

Hopefully the police have learned valuable lessons and will actually apply the law as most of us agree should.
The ban on handguns didn't stop another Dunblane, The police and the people stopped it by enforcing the law and reporting anything suspicious.

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