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I find this entire hang-up about camo hilarious because :

- I don't judge people on what they wear,

- Camo were not actually issued when I was in the army, (but had private Squad purchased camo gortex), so I could actually wear all the kit I "liberated" and no one would bat an eyelid,

- When ever I am shooting in Czech Rep, Slovakia or Poland, a lot of shooters wear camo stuff. Unlike in the UK, nobody think they are "impersonating" anything other than shooters wearing good cheap out-doors stuff with a slight macho look. Men are still men in the Visegrad group countries and want to look hard as nails

- I do keep a US Woodland goretex at the bottom of my shooting bag and a DMP one in the back of the car for emergency waterproof & I own couple of UBAC shirts (best stuff for dynamic shooting).

- However you see more camo stuff in the high street or in trendy clubs at any given time than on a shooting range,

- so now, I don't really wear camo , not because people might think I am a hipster or because it is the preferred outfit of French "red-neck" but because green is actually way-waaay cooler.

- So, the only military stuff I occasionally wear is Gorka gear (green with re-enforced brown patches). Nobody knows it, but it is the favoured private purchase of SF & Interior Minister Russian troops so I can be a uber Spetsnaz Waltz impersonator & actually get complemented on it, asked where to source it and sometimes have the p1ss-taken by Breacher when I end-up completely soaked in it .

I find this entire hang-up about camo hilarious because :

- I don't judge people on what they wear,

Yes, decent people are like that: Sadly the liberals, gun haters and the shallow and self obsessed, uneducated terminally incontinent, confused and scared public who believe the media lies are not.

froggy wrote:
- So, the only military stuff I occasionally wear is Gorka gear (green with re-enforced brown patches). Nobody knows it, but it is the favoured private purchase of SF & Interior Minister Russian troops so I can be a uber Spetsnaz Waltz impersonator & actually get complemented on it, asked where to source it and sometimes have the p*** by Breacher when I end-up completely soaked in it .

I wouldn't say "nobody knows it" Tovarisch....

"Gorka" is Russian for mountain and there are a number of producers of this gear, the best of the bunch being SSO/SPOSN who supply the Russian military.The Gorka-3 is actually now official Spetsnaz and VDV issue, especially in Digital Flora pattern.The Gorka is a development of the earlier VSR-93 winter suit that consisted of a lined jacket with fur collar (real bear fur on officers version, "fish" fur for the conscripts) and lined high waist trousers, which itself was developed from the earlier "Afganka" winter uniform that was widely issued during the Soviet-Afghan conflict.For winter shooting at Sennybridge etc I have a Soviet Border Guard Afganka-pattern jacket in Berezka (birch) camouflage, the grandfather of digital camo, which with the liner can be worn down to -40.

froggy wrote: I own couple of UBAC shirts (best stuff for dynamic shooting).

We need to see a full mounted medal rack on that UBACS!

RDC wrote:

Mattnall wrote:

RDC wrote:I always have an East German zeltbahn with me in case it rains when shooting outside, if that counts.

How have you waterproofed it?

Wax.

http://www.operationeastwind.com/forum/ ... pic=2897.0

This technique survives the horror storms in Oklahoma and its served me well through some bad weather in Norfolk too. It might not look amazing, but it's pretty handy for different things on a firing point.

Thanks.
I have an old Zeltbahn (two halves) and a few other bits of kit that may benefit from such a process. I have tried the wash-in proofer but it wasn't as good as the claims so never bothered again (and I found Goretex ).

DL. wrote:

froggy wrote: I own couple of UBAC shirts (best stuff for dynamic shooting).

We need to see a full mounted medal rack on that UBACS!

Very good piece of kit, particularly when its hot. I have stuffed the padding pockets with 5mm neoprene, purfec.

I suppose if you were to wear a medal on a UBACS you would have to be bloody careful not to get a pierced nipple

you would have to be bloody careful not to get a pierced nipple
Ummm ... now that's an idea. Were you that guy doing prone small-bore target shooting with a black gimp mask ?

Hell no

I only wear MTP suspenders with VD and Bar...oh and pink gimp mask with jewelled studding on a sunday clapclap

A colleague of mine wears his UBACS over his nipple piercing, it looks dreadful.

Hya Tovarisch....

"Gorka" is Russian for mountain and there are a number of producers of this gear, the best of the bunch being SSO/SPOSN who supply the Russian military.

Just in case .... I use a Splav-3, so I have a spare SPOSN set size 54/176, virtually new, if :
a) it's your size,
b) if you want to swap for a Afghanka ?

Cheerio,
yves