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safetyfirst wrote: Did you know pigs can't look up?

I didn't pick up on that the first time round, funniest thing I've read in ages!

Dougan, when you say plants, are we talking about farm crops or weeds growing in a field next to a shooting ground? Is this actually affecting the general population or just bothering some nimby when then can't eat dandelions on someone else's land?

It could be a good thing: if the dandelions ingest the lead then the sugarbabies will be too heavy to fly away and we won't get weeds in the sett croquet lawns...

Demonic69 wrote:Dougan, when you say plants, are we talking about farm crops or weeds growing in a field next to a shooting ground? Is this actually affecting the general population or just bothering some nimby when then can't eat dandelions on someone else's land?

Crops for sure; obviously farmers don't want contaminated goods...

...as for wild plants, it would entirely depend on the individual circumstances; i.e if the land had any statutory designations (like being an SSSI or Conservation Area) and who owned it etc.

Sim G wrote:

Dougan wrote: Being an Ecologist is a profession - They need to be qualified, and their personal opinions should not interfere with their work...other than to inspire them to work

So no ecologist opinion here, then....?

http://www.theecologist.org

Interesting new discovery by ecologists...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-31500883...

Are you talking about the limpet teeth? That was engineers, not ecologists, and who pays for these studies in these times of austerity?

Engineers made the discovery, but it was on the back of a limpet study by Ecologists...not that it matters...

...what does matter is that it IS well worth studying nature; a hell of a lot of engineering is inspired by, or copies nature...

...and for the 'hard liners' who don't have any 'green values', bear in mind that this discovery will probably be of most benefit to industries involving avionics and the military.

And there is a saying in Germany that goes, "Even a blind chicken finds the corn sometimes..."

Why is it that just about any "green issue" is surrounded in controversy? Why does it seem that they are presented as fact when only half true and when scientific analysis and peer review is applied to the next "green bomb of doom", it's not long before being exposed as, well, bollox....

And this is only compounded by green politics. Who are in fact so fvcked up it's scary! What an eclectic mix that has elements of the left wing/the right wing/Marxist/Facist/Communist/authoritarian/yoghurt knitters!!! And the push to have "global warming" labelled "climate change" is a level of indoctrination not seen since the PoW camps of North Korea!