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Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:09 pm
by joe
But if it's done so if it's not easly convertible would not be just section one modification ? Eg converting section 2 shotgun to section 1

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:53 pm
by TattooedGun
No, Specifically a section 5 firearm cannot be converted to Section 1. The law categorically states this.

edit: On second thought, I CANNOT find the Legislation to back up this claim.

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:59 pm
by bradaz11
he was saying about converting a straight pull to be trigger release, wasn't he? so sec1 to sec1 ??

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:08 pm
by TattooedGun
bradaz11 wrote:he was saying about converting a straight pull to be trigger release, wasn't he? so sec1 to sec1 ??
I guess it's down to how you read it. I didn't get that from it, but he could have been...
joe wrote:I do like the ak tempted to get one what would be the legalities of converted it to trigger release ??

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:09 pm
by bradaz11
yes, very true.

edit

i guess that its in a thread called 'i hate straight pull' i just assumed he meant a straight pull

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:12 pm
by TattooedGun
I have spent the last half an hour reading through the Firearms Act 1968 and can find NO reference in Section 5 where it states that "once section 5, always section 5" - It just lists the parameters that are set out as to what defines a section 5 firearm. Presumably if you meet the criteria, you can convert firearms. But I suspect Home Office has other things to say...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27

If anyone can find legislation to back this up, I'm all ears.

The only place I've seen the phrase Once Sec 5 always Sec 5 is on forums. That's not to say theres not evidence backing it up, and we know that certain rifles have been taken off the public for being outside of the guidelines. but I can't see it in black and white...

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:17 pm
by joe
yes i am taking about converting a straight pull to a trigger release

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:21 pm
by joe
TattooedGun wrote:I have spent the last half an hour reading through the Firearms Act 1968 and can find NO reference in Section 5 where it states that "once section 5, always section 5" - It just lists the parameters that are set out as to what defines a section 5 firearm. Presumably if you meet the criteria, you can convert firearms. But I suspect Home Office has other things to say...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27

If anyone can find legislation to back this up, I'm all ears.

The only place I've seen the phrase Once Sec 5 always Sec 5 is on forums. That's not to say theres not evidence backing it up, and we know that certain rifles have been taken off the public for being outside of the guidelines. but I can't see it in black and white...

firearms act 1988 section 7 (1a)

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:30 pm
by TattooedGun
joe wrote:
TattooedGun wrote:I have spent the last half an hour reading through the Firearms Act 1968 and can find NO reference in Section 5 where it states that "once section 5, always section 5" - It just lists the parameters that are set out as to what defines a section 5 firearm. Presumably if you meet the criteria, you can convert firearms. But I suspect Home Office has other things to say...

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/27

If anyone can find legislation to back this up, I'm all ears.

The only place I've seen the phrase Once Sec 5 always Sec 5 is on forums. That's not to say theres not evidence backing it up, and we know that certain rifles have been taken off the public for being outside of the guidelines. but I can't see it in black and white...

firearms act 1988 section 7 (1a)
Thanks! Couldn't find it!

Re: I HATE straight-pull.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:22 pm
by M99
I've just read through this pointless thread! If you don't like them, don't shoot them.
Or is it a case of can't shoot well with one? Sounds more like sour grapes.
Loads of us shot semi auto before the ban and in the forces /job and yet still achieve a good level of accuracy with them now in straight pull guise.
If you don't like yours or simply can't shoot it for toffee, sell it. Simples.