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Airbrush wrote:Thanks for posting the debate, the Finnish MEP nailed it. clapclap

Absolutely correct!

The Finnish MEP was articulate, well-informed and presented his case very clearly. Obviously, he takes the views and interests of the people he represents very seriously. It certainly looks like the Finns won't be bending over on this issue anytime soon.

I was about to ask why we don't have MEPs of this quality representing our UK interests but there's little point because we already know the answer.

Mezzer

HH1 wrote:

Chuck wrote:Just thgink: if you were an illegal gimmegrant sexual terrorist raping some lass in Germany you would get more sympathy!

The far left weasels are out bemoaning how all gimmegrants are not the same yet here we are being hammered for being law abiding people whoo just happen to have guns but are a handy scapregoat for the failings of the security services, police and politicians!

Stae theft of property - first the money you have in the bank, then your guns...hmmm nowt sinister in that is there!

My Sister has lived over in Germany for nearly 20 years and it was a lovely town. Now there are around 500 immigrants in her town.
The 14 year old daughter of one of her friends has just been raped by these vermin and over the last month 3 other women have been raped in the surrounding streets. My sister is now carrying CS gas and other items just to nip across to the shops. Were she originally felt sorry for these "poor people" and welcomed them like many German citizens did... she now hates them with a passion. They had a wonderful opportunity for a "better life" that they have now destroyed with their ideas of raping German women. In the case of the 14 year old German girl, her life has been destroyed, yet the police are reluctant to release details in case there is a back-lash against immigrants. The irony is that my sister has traveled to North Africa (mainly Egypt) around 30 times, typically on her own without too hassle yet she is now in very real danger in her own town

Are tazers legal there ?
What personal protection firearms (Ccw) permits ? Is that allowed in Germany ?
Even cs spray here could get you jailed ! The stupid sheep will say if cs spray is made legal here then all the criminals will buy cs spray and use on innocent people aaarggh

joe wrote: Even cs spray here could get you jailed ! The stupid sheep will say if cs spray is made legal here then all the criminals will buy cs spray and use on innocent people aaarggh

The solution is simple............ Leave

Explosive wrote:

joe wrote: Even cs spray here could get you jailed ! The stupid sheep will say if cs spray is made legal here then all the criminals will buy cs spray and use on innocent people aaarggh

The solution is simple............ Leave

How is that a simple solution?.

Simple !=easy :)

Even cs spray here could get you jailed ! The stupid sheep will say if cs spray is made legal here then all the criminals will buy cs spray and use on innocent people aaarggh

clapclap clapclap

The cowardly and stupid response - leave. WHY? Where? People actually advocate that the country be abandoned to criminals and liberals who can not / will not see the damage they have done. So all those who can do leave, then what? Those who are cannot and probably are most vulnerable at the mercy of the predators?? Why is it so UN-PC to want a decent country for decent people?

More to the point leave for WHERE? decent ploaces are being destroyed and the sheer vindictive mentality of punishing the law abiding and thrifty continues unabaited whilst the criminal gets all the support and excuses from the fools.

Just WHY do some people insist on giving in to criminals changing their way of life to suit them, finding a reason to excuse them at every turn and blame the victims??? - Oh wait, it's the liberal way!

Liberals will defend any criminal but where are they now that this proposed ban is under the spotlight..suddenly they are comfortable with the law abiding and innocent being screwed over en masse because of the actions of a few criminals....talk about double standards.

Anyway - back on topic - hopefully this loony idea of screwing over the law abiding and making them scapegoats will go where it belongs - in the bin!

My sister lives there with her German husband..... it used to be a lovely town, not anymore.

CS / pepper spray was around 3 euro but the price has shot up over the last few weeks. Stun guns are in short supply and selling like hot cakes. Pubs are now charging a 2 euro entrance fee (which I think is being deducted from customers drink orders) to stop these immigrants going inside and hanging around by the women's toilets in order to try and harass German women.

I found this on another forum, anyone aware of it and want to pass it on ?

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EU proposal to ban Semi Automatic Firearms

Postby Dave Smith » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:44 pm

Has anyone within Four4Islands seen this , it was sent to a mate of mine from his MEP Anthea McIntyre , I do hope that they haven't considered they have notified all shooting organisations when in fact they have possibly only made contact with the more widely known ones such as Basc , Nra and the HBSA ?? -

Dear Mr ...............

You recently wrote to me regarding your concerns about the Firearms Legislation proposed
by the Commission in the European Parliament.
You may be interested to know that my European Conservatives & Reformists Group (ECR)
colleague, Vicky Ford MEP, has taken on the role of rapporteur for the Firearms Directive. As
you can imagine MEPs have been receiving many emails from constituents and stakeholders
about this matter. Therefore Vicky has decided to hold a roundtable discussion for UK
stakeholders at Europe House in London on 28th January 13:00 - 15:00. All national
organisations have been invited, such as representative of museums, re-enactors and those
involved in sporting and country pursuits.
lf you represent an organisation with a linkto firearms and would like to participate in this
roundtable discussion, then please do let me know. I will be abte to get you an invitation
and send you further details.
I will, of course, keep you updated on any further developments
Yours Sincerely
Anthea Mcintyre
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The UKPSA has received an invite, but not everyone on the council was aware of that! Hopefully F4i will get one too/has one and may not realise

snayperskaya wrote:

Explosive wrote:

joe wrote: Even cs spray here could get you jailed ! The stupid sheep will say if cs spray is made legal here then all the criminals will buy cs spray and use on innocent people aaarggh

The solution is simple............ Leave

How is that a simple solution?.

How is it not ? I went to the pictures once but I did not like the film, so I left. It's that simple.