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One member confessed he filled 222 Rounds with Bullseye and handed them in.

I'm sure they destroyed all the Ammo handed in though.

If I remember Colin Greenwood, (Guns Review Mag), deliberatly blew up his Mini14 before he handed it in.

lapua338 wrote:

dromia wrote:When we are give a date by plod to hand all our guns in.

If you don't hand them in they won't have the resources to collect them all!

I propose civil disobedience because we should not acknowledge the legitimacy of their injudicious regulations.

The police will be overburdened for years tracking down otherwise law-abiding citizens refusing to comply with confiscations (tens of thousands of people are likely in the Czech Republic alone as civil disobedience is already being vocally advocated) and some citizens will simply purchase illegal firearms, which are the same guns that the EU Commission claims to protect us from.

If it comes to another ban some kind of civil disobedience should be tried, don't just refuse to hand in but try something like " Sorry Sir, I sold that gun ages ago, did you not get the letter I sent? It was ages ago and my memory is rubbish, never mind just check your database I'm sure it will turn up"

As most of us know they make lots of mistakes, I noticed a while back on a renewal they had lost record of three rifles that I owned, of course I told them of their mistake, thanked me for my honesty.

If they insist eventually you could say "Found it! It was under my Grannies bed"

It would make them think twice about any other hand ins.

If a law is passed it's too late to protest. We should protest now...

25Pdr wrote:It was also rumoured that at the time of the hand in(s) that some people not wanting to part with a cherished gun simply obtained a similar de act version, changed the ser. no. and handed that in instead.

A bit dodgy if you ask me, the thought of even one night in nick terrifies me, never mind five years.

Perhaps not that much of a risk I reckon. When I handed over my pistols the officers were completely without any idea of firearms or safety, for that matter. When I passed my S&W Mod 29 over to one officer, recognizing it as "Dirty Harry's gun", he then proceeded to wave it around the room playing with it.

"That's loaded by the way" seemed to bring him to his senses. Briefly at any rate.

They had no clue what they were doing and I could have handed over an airgun and they'd have been none the wiser. I was very much surprised it wasn't being handled by firearm officers.

On another matter.
That day was very busy. I had to hand in my final year dissertation to college, take my firearms to the local plod station, and then set off to Cornwall for a holiday. As it was all on route I opted to take my huge holdall full of guns and ammo into college with me. Our college had a small three man police station on site (I don't know why) and my plan was to leave the bag temporarily with them whilst I handed in my diss and collect it on the way out. Explaining the situation to the officers they said they were about to go on patrol and the other was having his lunch. They suggested I lug this heavy bag of pistols and ammo around college with me. True story.

25Pdr wrote:One member confessed he filled 222 Rounds with Bullseye and handed them in.

I'm sure they destroyed all the Ammo handed in though.

If I remember Colin Greenwood, (Guns Review Mag), deliberately blew up his Mini14 before he handed it in.

There was a firearms officer up here who filled his cartridges with explosives!
A lot of rounds had coal dust in them apparently!

lapua338 wrote:

dromia wrote:When we are give a date by plod to hand all our guns in.

If you don't hand them in they won't have the resources to collect them all!

I propose civil disobedience because we should not acknowledge the legitimacy of their injudicious regulations.

The police will be overburdened for years tracking down otherwise law-abiding citizens refusing to comply with confiscations (tens of thousands of people are likely in the Czech Republic alone as civil disobedience is already being vocally advocated) and some citizens will simply purchase illegal firearms, which are the same guns that the EU Commission claims to protect us from.

In 1997 some 59,000 handgunners who were to lose their sport and handguns said the same as you. What did we do? We meekly went to the hand in points and gave up our handguns having said the " police can't arrest us all". If we lose again we will do the same no doubt. Although, in this case we are talking about the whole of Europe but, I doubt there will be those in the UK who engage in civil disobedience. Reports from what I have read is that the legislation is to be discussed in the EU Parliament in the Spring/ Summer, a 'what if question'. What if the referendum results in a UK exit one assumes the new law will not apply to us ????

John1 wrote:

lapua338 wrote:

dromia wrote:When we are give a date by plod to hand all our guns in.

If you don't hand them in they won't have the resources to collect them all!

I propose civil disobedience because we should not acknowledge the legitimacy of their injudicious regulations.

The police will be overburdened for years tracking down otherwise law-abiding citizens refusing to comply with confiscations (tens of thousands of people are likely in the Czech Republic alone as civil disobedience is already being vocally advocated) and some citizens will simply purchase illegal firearms, which are the same guns that the EU Commission claims to protect us from.

In 1997 some 59,000 handgunners who were to lose their sport and handguns said the same as you. What did we do? We meekly went to the hand in points and gave up our handguns having said the " police can't arrest us all". If we lose again we will do the same no doubt. Although, in this case we are talking about the whole of Europe but, I doubt there will be those in the UK who engage in civil disobedience. Reports from what I have read is that the legislation is to be discussed in the EU Parliament in the Spring/ Summer, a 'what if question'. What if the referendum results in a UK exit one assumes the new law will not apply to us ????

I think there is a line though. Back then pistol shooters knew they would be offered the same amount of slots for rifles as they held for pistols. So although we were angry about it we knew that we could still continue shooting albeit in a different format. There was a strong incentive to keep our noses clean and refrain from getting a criminal record. Carrot and stick.

Second time around, well, there would be less to lose for a lot of people. Having a criminal record doesn't carry the same sense of shame and social stigma as it once did. Indeed, these days so many things that were once trifling matters now result in a criminal record to the point that it barely raises an eyebrow.

I'll be the first to admit that needing to maintain a squeaky clean character for my FAC has reeled me in from delivering a well-deserved thump on a number of occasions in my youth. And kept me in line when taking a dodgy path was tempting on some occasions. So if I were to lose my property rights some time hence then civil disobedience has its appeal. Especially as our prisons are so full these days that they're having to let people out way in advance of deserved sentences. Previous good character might elicit some sympathy from judges and get you one of the joke community service sentences.

If I'm instructed to hand some of my rifles in, then that's exactly what I will do and I'll do it on time.

HALODIN wrote:If I'm instructed to hand some of my rifles in, then that's exactly what I will do and I'll do it on time.

What makes you think it will be some and not all !

Might as well close this thread...