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Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:18 pm
by ovenpaa
Some snippets from the Conclusions and recommendations.
There are 138,728 section 1 firearms certificate holders and 574,946 shotgun certificate holders in England and Wales...........34 relevant laws which govern the control of firearms................legal firearms were used in at least 10% of firearms homicides in 2008/09
We advocate a change in the law to create a single system for the licensing of section 1 firearms and shotguns. Such a system should be based upon the current process for granting licences for section 1 firearms
Reported air weapon offences have been falling since 2003/04, possibly in response to legislation..............Greater enforcement of air weapon offences, such as criminal damage, should form part of the more general police undertaking to be tougher on anti-social behaviour. Before considering whether or not to incorporate low-powered air weapons into the firearms licensing regime
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:59 am
by Robin128
Well, it's too late to get anything passed about gunlaws relating to this tragic incident...last day was Monday...to get it in before summer recess.
It'll be October before anything can be approved by the commons.
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:06 am
by Sim G
Far too much on their plate to worry about firearms legislation at the minute. Changes are coming of that there is no doubt, but if those changes mean further restrictions, is another matter.
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:13 pm
by Robin128
It'll be the referal to GP that may stick.
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:29 pm
by Blackstuff
The longer it takes the better imo, the general public are a fickle lot and probably had completely forgotten about the whole thing after a month or two, if there's no public support they're less likely to be able to get anything too ridiculous passed.
It'll be interesting to see how the first anniversary will pass - only a week on Thursday! Time definitely speeds up the older you get :?
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:41 pm
by Sim G
Robin128 wrote:It'll be the referal to GP that may stick.
I think you're right. As well as they'll take the opportunity to restrict further certain categories of firearms when they bring the various Acts and Ammendments into a new, all encompassing Act....
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:05 pm
by 25Pdr
Robin128 wrote:It'll be the referal to GP that may stick.
Report out today......Clicky..
Assessment and review of gun licence applications
The majority of GPs do not want an increased role in the assessment and review of gun licence applications.
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:37 pm
by Steve
25Pdr wrote:Robin128 wrote:It'll be the referal to GP that may stick.
Report out today......Clicky..
Assessment and review of gun licence applications
The majority of GPs do not want an increased role in the assessment and review of gun licence applications.
Well that was clear as mud.GP's dont want to get involved in firearms applications so what i wonder are they going to do next? The present system works perfectly alright so why waste time and money.Yes i know we've had 3 shooting incidents in the last 3 decades,but you cannot forsee in advance when someone is going to flip.
Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 5:54 pm
by Robin128
If one's GP is to be asked to support (or otherwise) an appliaction/renewal, then this may lead to people
not seeking treatment for bad nerves/alcoholism which of course will have the opposite outcome to what is intended.
I don't think Cumbria will go away unnoticed...I reckon Miliband et al will drag it up for political reasons. And Clegg may be forced to take the lib/dem line...what ever that is...tree hugging?
On what basis can the Government slip in a banning on certain guns? Bird used a shotgun/22lr rifle...staple tools of farmers???
But hey...I think Cameron is doing a good job on this so far.
And Nick Herbert MP..."Much of the harm caused to our communities by firearms is caused by those who are not licensed to own a gun." "...most incidents relate to illegal ownership, and I believe that that is where we need to focus our enforcement activity." "The evidence in relation to young people shooting does not give any cause for concern". " I agree with the Select Committee's suggestion that requiring firearms applicants to undergo a compulsory medical check would be costly and would be regarded as disproportionate." "It is important for GPs, who will be in the best position to raise concerns, to use the system of notification in a way that ensures that such issues can be taken into account by the police."
http://www.nickherbert.com/media_centre ... %20Control
And having knowledgeable and influential people like Mike Eveleigh (BASC) championing our just cause is gratifying.
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Re: Changes in the law relating to firearms and shotguns
Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:09 pm
by Sim G
Robin128 wrote:On what basis can the Government slip in a banning on certain guns?
It didn't stop them in 1988, Rob, after Hungerford. The government seized the opportunity then and I think they'll seize it again. Perhaps not as far as banning, but certainly in reclassifying certain types of gun.