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Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:53 pm
by meles meles
So, oomans, it seems that RCBS kit is generally the preferred option if funds permit ? We're seriously thinking of taking up paw loading and so will be on the lookout later this year for the essentials. Our preference would be to buy good kit once, don't mind purchasing second paw either. We'll perhaps be loading for :

6.5x55 Swedish
7x64 Brenneke
7.5x54 French
7.5x55 Swiss
7.62x39 Soviet
7.62x51 NATO
7.62x54R
9x19 Parabellum
.303
.45 ACP

Are dies interchangeable between different makes of press or do we need the same brand of dies as press?

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:03 pm
by Stuck
Dies are interchangeable between differing brands of press but some use unique bushing systems.

As an example I use both Forster & Hornaday dies in my Forster press & a few other makes in my RCBS press.

Avoid buying "complete" kits from one manufacturer if you can, mix & match what works.

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:08 pm
by Stuck
It's not rocket science but having a tutorial from someone that genuinely knows what they are doing & is willing to advise at all times is a serious confidence booster.

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:51 pm
by Dougan
There's nothing wrong with 'second paw' - I got an old (25/30 years?) RCBS press, it came with an equally old and basic set of RCBS .303 dies...I was going to change the dies, but didn't bother as they make good ammo.

I'd recommend a basic Lee turret press with an 'auto-disk' (powder dropper) for you pistol calibers - You can happily churn out 100s at a time quite quickly, and with the initial outlay (couple of hundred quid) being quite low, actually make a significant saving by reloading...

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:45 am
by dromia
Firstly read that Lyman manual handloading sections two or three times. Think about and try and visualise the process.

What you don't understand, can't visualise or have any lack of clarity about write down.

Find an experienced handloader with a good single stage set up and get them to show you how to go on. Three or four such hands on demonstrations is worth their weight in gold as you can see and feel the process and also start to learn the questions to ask along with getting equipment experience to help you make choices when setting up.

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:47 am
by dromia
Also pick just one cartridge from your list and learn to reload that one first, swapping over calibres during the learning process will only confuse you further. Once you have the first one off the rest will be easy.

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:39 pm
by meles meles
Well, oomans, we've read Lyman 49 a few times and think we grasp the basics. We're going to write a sign to paste over our workbench (Keep it simple, keep it safe) and start our re-loading on 6.5x55 Swe - we normally shoot milsurp but we have just bought 100 PPU rounds so we can save the cases ready for reloading. Our first questions:

1. Where is a good place to buy re-loading equipment ? (We don't mind second paw)
2. What is the best press to buy ? By best, we mean a rugged, reliable, simple press that will last
3. What make of dies should we buy ?

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:43 pm
by Ovenpaa
1. Your call
2. Lee Cast Classic a very good staring point IMHO, it should last you a lifetime
3. Lee for value and Forster for a bit more finesse

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:00 pm
by dromia
Classic cast is indeed a good value for money press if you are going new.

Also keep a look out for second hand as all the manufactures make good presses, RCBS, Hornady, Lyman, Simplex. The Forster Co-ax is an excellent press but more costly but if you ultimately want precision and you think that it will be a serious hobby for you then it is worth considering under the buy once cry once principle. If buying second hand make sure that your choice of press has compound leverage as some of the older presses though stout of frame are more akin pistol calibres or people with arms like Popeye.

What rifle will you be reloading for? If it is a tight chambered hi spec target type rifle then Forster are the way to go otherwise get the Lee Deluxe set with the collet neck sizing die as well as the full length sizing die.

Re: Possible sticky - what do I need for reloading?

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:08 pm
by meles meles
Most of our rifles are military rifles - Carl Gustav, Krag in 6.5x55, hence not the most precise of chambers