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#51 Post by John MH »

IainWR wrote:
John MH wrote:More 300m ISSF facilities then? And wouldn't it be better to relocate any Olympic legacy out in the regions other than Bisley.
OK you can stand against me in the next NRA election for TR Rep. I am deeply against ISSF and everything it stands for. They write rules that don't need to be written, appoint AND PAY officials we don't need and claim that women need concessions to shoot. I give you Jane Messer, Winner of the NRA Gold Cross for the Grand Aggregate, Captain of Great Britain and finalist (last 10) in the 2011 World Championships. I give you Karen Robertson, British 300m Target Rifle Champion 198something. ISSF - sexist.

Olympic legacy: take anything that's going. I suspect that zero will be going.

I just know I am going to be in trouble for this post, but if the argument stands up it has to be used.

Iain
You won't get slated by me but TR is rather limited to the counties you mentioned, ISSF is a world wide. I also understand the TR reluctance to change the rules to allow home loaded ammunition in TR but in the US NRA only the Palma is restricted everyone else shoots High power with either Service Rifles or Match Rifles with home loaded ammo. Is TR restricted simply to make it more attractive to the 'Schools' and Cadets that take part and in the hope to keep set up costs down.

Simply put I don't think more shooting is necessarily going to have much effect on the NRA finances unless its lots and lots more shooting with every firing point and target lane being used every weekend throughout the year. Something more radical is required but I don't know what.
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Re: Ideas needed ASAP

#52 Post by dromia »

With a membership of circa 6000 and around 170,000 FAC holders across the UK then membership has to be one of the biggest growth potentials for steady revenue for the NRA.

To do that the NRA needs to have relevance beyond Bisley to all shooters and gun owners. That doesn't need to be at the expense of Bisley which to my mind is a national treasure it also doesn't mean a Bisley in every region. It does mean the NRA making the most of its resources in people, knowledge and experience. Using these in practical ways to reach out broadly and meaningfully to all gun owners by supporting their endeavours using the organisations greatest strength, its people. Reverting back to the Bisley centric approach of past years will relegate the NRA to being what it is obviously seen by most UK firearms holders an irrelevance.

Lord Elcho's vision was for a truly national organisation supporting rifle shooting everywhere in the country with Bisley being the centre of excellence. The NRA has lost that vision to the detriment of its self and shooters and it appears that that wonderful national resource, Bisley, has now become a millstone round the NRA's neck.

Increasing membership is where the income will come from at all levels, that is obvious to all except the NRA who seem to deny it. Other shooting organisations manage it so why not the NRA?

That should be your focus and if people don't want to join then what you are offering isn't what people want.
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#53 Post by John MH »

Well said.
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#54 Post by Watcher »

How about a programme of working with the Scout Association at HQ level to introduce shooting to the Scouts.

A Scout weekend at Bisley?

How about identifying and engaging with the heads of sport in every Education Authority and ultimately in every school?
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#55 Post by Watcher »

What about offering a kids Summer School/Camp (like in the US)? Majors on shooting but also camping, trips to London, the coast etc. etc.
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#56 Post by ovenpaa »

A summer Biathlon series, one thing Bisley has is a lot of space so it would be easy to organise a course where the competitors can run a loop and then pick up their rifle and shoot with it, leave the rifle and run again and so on.
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#57 Post by Michael Sproul »

^^^ I'd make a trip to Bisley for a competition such as this once I'd sorted FAC out.
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#58 Post by Sandgroper »

JonC wrote:
Sandgroper wrote:What about opening up the ranges and facilities to members of other shooting organisations who provide their members with the appropiate insurance?

For example, if a NRA member pays X then as a member of BASC I would pay X + 15% to shoot.
I think BASC members can already book lanes, although not sure if they could share with NRA members or members of other clubs. I assume that everybody would need a shooters certification card (or whatever its called), which is an MOD requirement.
Didn't know about that. I thought it is was for NRA members only.
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#59 Post by froggy »

Salut,


a) A summer Biathlon series

+1 :good: , running and roller-sking class (looks like with already have enought volunters for a F-B.co.uk team... ;) )

b) a more dynamic 22lr gallery course similar to the IDPA with barricades combining moving targets, multi targets, re-load on the move, weak stance etc... etc...

Make it with loud rock music & fun zombi-ish targets. Something fun that would appeal to "younger" generations ... The average age of shooters is quite depressing and a worry for the futur of the sport...
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#60 Post by Watcher »

What about encouraging the public schools who are into shooting (and get a lot of support from the NRA) to include some children from outwith the school? Might support their charitable status :-P
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