China and Chinese products

[snayperskaya]

Bill Gates springs to mind. 104.1 billion USD net worth 2020.



If Bill Gates donated 10USD a month to 5000 families in India, what a life changer, they may even be able to get running water and he wouldn't even notice the money leaving his account.

He does alot, albeit the tin foil hat brigade also think his health initiatives in Africa are a plan to sterilize black people.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%2 ... Foundation

There isn't any doubt that Bill and Melinda Gates are advocates for population control!!!, no need for a tinfoil hat with that one.........

[BestDrugDoc]

Just 10USD...

Hands up those who would give the cost of a pub meal? £32 a month and I'll tell you the story of how to change a life.

Please do.

[Christel]

Population control, Sir David Attenborough is in favour, so am I, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that there are too many people on this planet compared to the resources available.

[dromia]

Therein lies the rub with globalisation, global population control needs a global authority and institutions to implement and that is never going happen by the consent of nations.

Globalisation's failure is the same as that of the EU. Without government at that level along with institutions both fiscal and civil along with popular consent to implement its legislative programme then it will fail.

The further government gets from its people the greater the democratic deficit and therefore the end of democratic government.

The only other option is totalitarianism and we all know what what that brings as absolute power universally corrupts absolutely.

For all its failings no one has come along with a better political system other than democracy in protecting ordinary citizens. Its weakness is that unless the people pro-actively exercise that right democracy fails to work. Post war this is what have happened in the west, people have let their democratic rights slip away from them allowing the shrinking of the state and universal deregulation, hence the political, economic and social mess we are now in.

Global capitalism has exploited this folly fully for their own greed and brought us to our current ruin, and by that I don't just mean covid-19, as global capitalism has no global legislative and regulative framework to temper its destructive avarice.

[FredB]

One man one vote is a crazy system.
It means that some total thick head who does not understand what he / she is voting for can cancel out the vote of a knowlegeable person. Democracy would be great if you have to earn the vote, not qualify automatically by birth. Wouldn't it be great if the only people who could vote on firearms matters were those who knew about them and their uses?
Fred

[RDC]

One man one vote is a crazy system.
It means that some total thick head who does not understand what he / she is voting for can cancel out the vote of a knowlegeable person.

The problem with that is that each side thinks the other is thick for voting the way they did.

Democracy would be great if you have to earn the vote, not qualify automatically by birth.

I

And where would you set the criteria? University graduates? Then someone who did a degree in gender studies of underwater beekeeping has more rights than someone with no formal education but has built a successful business from scratch, or is a skilled craftsman.

Military service? Some of those who I have worked with I wouldn't rely on to make the right decision on what their name is it they were put on the spot.

Be gainfully employed? You'd see an uptick in people being on the books of family companies for the qualifying period coming up to voting time. You'd also have the graduates kicking off that the cleaner is too thick to receive vote. You'd also have Labour spouting about voter inequality and that it unfairly hits the poorest and ethnic minorities the most.

Pay taxes? Then surely those who pay more tax should have their vote weighted as such. After all, why should someone who pays 54 quid a year in tax have the same voting right as someone who pays 54k in tax a year? Or 5.4million in tax year?

I'd actually go along with the tax idea to a certain extent. All you hear from the likes of Momentum is that Labour voters pay the majority of tax but the super rich who don't pay any tax are all the Tories care about. Well if that's the case then a tax-based voting power will address that. It would also encourage tax dodgers to actually pay tax, wouldn't it? The

Wouldn't it be great if the only people who could vote on firearms matters were those who knew about them and their uses?
Fred

Unfortunately shooters wouldn't be listened to. Supposedly learned scholars, MPs and 'experts' with an anti view will be listened to as they know it all. You only have to look at the results of recent consultation to see that. Overwhelming responses against proposals from shooters, yet completely ignored.

[Christel]

Momentum...bunch of despicable liars. Just look at the recent leaked report.

Voting...it is a really difficult question. Who sets the rules for who can vote.

As an aside, I can only vote in the local elections because I have not become a UK citizen - I find that unfair having lived here since 2000.

[Sim G]

As an aside, I can only vote in the local elections because I have not become a UK citizen - I find that unfair having lived here since 2000.

Now this isn’t a dig, far from it. I like you Christel, and whenever we have met previously you’ve always been good company. But, why don’t you have dual nationality? I always wondered why, despite EU blah blah, someone who adopts fully their host country, then doesn’t take citizenship?

[RDC]

Momentum...bunch of despicable liars.

Agreed.

[Christel]

As an aside, I can only vote in the local elections because I have not become a UK citizen - I find that unfair having lived here since 2000.

Now this isn’t a dig, far from it. I like you Christel, and whenever we have met previously you’ve always been good company. But, why don’t you have dual nationality? I always wondered why, despite EU blah blah, someone who adopts fully their host country, then doesn’t take citizenship?

Ah...there is an explanation.

It used to be that Danes could not have dual citizenship. From 2014 that was changed. I am not sure how it works tbh.

...and have you seen the price of the British citizenship test?

As an aside...quote from Wiki.

In December 2018, the law on Danish citizenship was changed so that a handshake was mandatory during the ceremony. The regulation would, among other things, prevent members of Islamist group Hizb ut-Tahrir from receiving Danish citizenship as they would never shake hands.[