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#51 Post by DaveFirearmsUK »

Countryman wrote:The thing to watch Dave is that Mike is not answering any of the serious points raised. He seems to be revelling in this noise he has made. He has another 150 likes in the last couple of days which is natural from folks who want to see what the "insert rude descriptive" is saying now.

I've heard many people say that Frank. I do need to be careful what I'm saying to try and remain professional but from what we have seen Firearms UK disagrees with Mr Yardley's stance on "military style" firearms, we support practical shooting, we support airsoft and disagree that it amounts to "terrorist training" we also do not believe that violent video games or films influence sane people into committing crimes. In fact with the advent of games such as call of duty it is more important than ever that shooting becomes more dynamic with a greater variety of firearms if we are to compete with video games and get young people interested.



Again we believe as you do, that unity and a unified voice supporting each other will give shooting the best chances at a bright future. In the past we have seen other disciplines "sold out" or sacrificed. Appeasement will not work for most of us and will only result in shooting becoming the sport many anti's think it is, one for the rich, privileged elite.
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#52 Post by RDC »

The thing I find most bizarre is that he sees himself as being open-minded and forward thinking, and those who have argued against his comments that started this thread as the ones that are close-minded.
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#53 Post by Sixshot6 »

RDC wrote:The thing I find most bizarre is that he sees himself as being open-minded and forward thinking, and those who have argued against his comments that started this thread as the ones that are close-minded.
And it's that mentality that lost him his lucrative gigs, revealed himself as an uncle tom like figure during the Charlie Hebdo spat mentioned earlier on. Weirdly his type can't see that doing what they've done for years has not served us any favors and just because they are last in line to have their stuff taken off them, doesn't mean they'd be scott free if we all lost our stuff they don't like. And he has a funny view on open minded.

With his remaining gigs he's lucky to still have, most people would have had a reflection on how their attitude reduced their cash flow. In his case though, he must think he's not fault and everyone else is to blame. Perhaps when's lost the last gig when the dead tree media is gone he'll be questioning why's having to tighten his belt a bit? Or maybe he'll still be a t*@t then. In future make sure we get people that aren't of his ilk to represent us in the media.

He's a text book narcissist at the end of the day. He'll never be in the wrong, but he'll when threatened try and make some effort to backpedal and regain favor. But regardless, a turd is a turd. No matter how many times, you polish it, cover it with sprinkles and say its not a turd.
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#54 Post by Outsider »

I'm going to be brutally honest. I got interested in shooting because of films, books, games, media, etc.

The American shooting community embraces this while trying to educate and properly train those who come to shooting because they saw a film or played a video game.

Look at the amount of firearm owners in the States who have come into the sport because they saw a zombie film? We even sell airgun targets with zombies on them here in the UK, so why can't we just say 'Yes, you want a cool gun and you want to shoot it and if you don't do anything wrong with it, what's wrong with that?"

Why can't we say 'Yes, you saw a fun film and you want to shoot a gun? Crack on, son, as long as you do it responsibly and safely"?

What is it about so many in Britain who are in the sport but shake their heads and say 'You can't enjoy it?"
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#55 Post by Sixshot6 »

Outsider wrote:I'm going to be brutally honest. I got interested in shooting because of films, books, games, media, etc.

The American shooting community embraces this while trying to educate and properly train those who come to shooting because they saw a film or played a video game.

Look at the amount of firearm owners in the States who have come into the sport because they saw a zombie film? We even sell airgun targets with zombies on them here in the UK, so why can't we just say 'Yes, you want a cool gun and you want to shoot it and if you don't do anything wrong with it, what's wrong with that?"

Why can't we say 'Yes, you saw a fun film and you want to shoot a gun? Crack on, son, as long as you do it responsibly and safely"?

What is it about so many in Britain who are in the sport but shake their heads and say 'You can't enjoy it?"
Pure and simple Snobbery, for all the good in this country is f*** over by Class divisions and the like that I think are counterproductive and utter bo...cks. I say embrace the young and interested who come in through popular media (how its any less valid that people who came in from books or cowboy films I'll never know) and as a gamer as well as gunowner I take umbrage at his remarks about violent video games. There is no link between murders and them or even high levels of gunownership. Its just some people were sick and twisted to begin with, either as result of bad upbringing or even some people having faulty wiring in what passes for a brain. Also video games have come on since the 80's/90's, better writing, acting and hell even using events as social commentary. I dare anyone to play the Metal Gear series including the 4th one and not think that how the government is portrayed as part of the problem or that Snake will die regardless of how good the player is.... it just gets you and I lost a chunk of life to LA Noire. Some of it just admiring how they'd recreated (with some liberties) 1940's post war LA.

He is so wrong and such an utter arsehole. If he's want to see what holds uk shooting back, he should look in the mirror. And plus we've had a violent sociopaths since the beginning of time. Some of them we've even called Leader or a politician.
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#56 Post by Chuck »

What is it about so many in Britain who are in the sport but shake their heads and say 'You can't enjoy it?"


It's the Brit way - god forbid you actually enjoy anything.

UK governments: Tough on fun, tough on the causes of fun!
Political Correctness is the language of lies, written by the corrupt , spoken by the inept!
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#57 Post by Outsider »

Sixshot6 wrote:
Outsider wrote:I'm going to be brutally honest. I got interested in shooting because of films, books, games, media, etc.

The American shooting community embraces this while trying to educate and properly train those who come to shooting because they saw a film or played a video game.

Look at the amount of firearm owners in the States who have come into the sport because they saw a zombie film? We even sell airgun targets with zombies on them here in the UK, so why can't we just say 'Yes, you want a cool gun and you want to shoot it and if you don't do anything wrong with it, what's wrong with that?"

Why can't we say 'Yes, you saw a fun film and you want to shoot a gun? Crack on, son, as long as you do it responsibly and safely"?

What is it about so many in Britain who are in the sport but shake their heads and say 'You can't enjoy it?"
Pure and simple Snobbery, for all the good in this country is f*** over by Class divisions and the like that I think are counterproductive and utter bo...cks. I say embrace the young and interested who come in through popular media (how its any less valid that people who came in from books or cowboy films I'll never know) and as a gamer as well as gunowner I take umbrage at his remarks about violent video games. There is no link between murders and them or even high levels of gunownership. Its just some people were sick and twisted to begin with, either as result of bad upbringing or even some people having faulty wiring in what passes for a brain. Also video games have come on since the 80's/90's, better writing, acting and hell even using events as social commentary. I dare anyone to play the Metal Gear series including the 4th one and not think that how the government is portrayed as part of the problem or that Snake will die regardless of how good the player is.... it just gets you and I lost a chunk of life to LA Noire. Some of it just admiring how they'd recreated (with some liberties) 1940's post war LA.

He is so wrong and such an utter arsehole. If he's want to see what holds uk shooting back, he should look in the mirror. And plus we've had a violent sociopaths since the beginning of time. Some of them we've even called Leader or a politician.
I personally support playing the MGS series at least once every three or so years with a bottle of good whiskey and some decent cigars. It's a cracking game series and to be quite honest, contains some decent life advice.
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#58 Post by Sixshot6 »

Outsider wrote:
Sixshot6 wrote:
Outsider wrote:I'm going to be brutally honest. I got interested in shooting because of films, books, games, media, etc.

The American shooting community embraces this while trying to educate and properly train those who come to shooting because they saw a film or played a video game.

Look at the amount of firearm owners in the States who have come into the sport because they saw a zombie film? We even sell airgun targets with zombies on them here in the UK, so why can't we just say 'Yes, you want a cool gun and you want to shoot it and if you don't do anything wrong with it, what's wrong with that?"

Why can't we say 'Yes, you saw a fun film and you want to shoot a gun? Crack on, son, as long as you do it responsibly and safely"?

What is it about so many in Britain who are in the sport but shake their heads and say 'You can't enjoy it?"
Pure and simple Snobbery, for all the good in this country is f*** over by Class divisions and the like that I think are counterproductive and utter bo...cks. I say embrace the young and interested who come in through popular media (how its any less valid that people who came in from books or cowboy films I'll never know) and as a gamer as well as gunowner I take umbrage at his remarks about violent video games. There is no link between murders and them or even high levels of gunownership. Its just some people were sick and twisted to begin with, either as result of bad upbringing or even some people having faulty wiring in what passes for a brain. Also video games have come on since the 80's/90's, better writing, acting and hell even using events as social commentary. I dare anyone to play the Metal Gear series including the 4th one and not think that how the government is portrayed as part of the problem or that Snake will die regardless of how good the player is.... it just gets you and I lost a chunk of life to LA Noire. Some of it just admiring how they'd recreated (with some liberties) 1940's post war LA.

He is so wrong and such an utter arsehole. If he's want to see what holds uk shooting back, he should look in the mirror. And plus we've had a violent sociopaths since the beginning of time. Some of them we've even called Leader or a politician.
I personally support playing the MGS series at least once every three or so years with a bottle of good whiskey and some decent cigars. It's a cracking game series and to be quite honest, contains some decent life advice.
The prologue to No 5 ground zeroes came out last year and had you in an obvious stand in for Guantanamo bay. The full portion of the game (the split of the two even though it was cheaper is partly why I think Kojima left Konam. Something tells its either the last MGS game or the last decent one, f***). Has you as Big Boss/Venom Snake (voiced capably by Kiefer Sutherland, apparently this may have caused another split between Kojima and Konami but we'll know when the dirty laundry airs later) is in Africa, Afghanistan and various other war torn hell holes. So loads of home truths and life and life lessons, including the full reasons Big Boss wen't from Hero to well-intention-ed extremist. I always like the line at the end of 4 with that goes "Live as a man, not a snake".

And I would not have known about certain firearms without the games series ala the cool but impractical MK 23. Mick Yardley can only hope for a fraction of the people who gained a decent life lesson or even something decent to hear. Who know's, maybe the tides turning against toads like him.
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#60 Post by Sixshot6 »

He just keeps digging the hole in doesn't he? Seems to try to cite examples to back him up (the TE Lawrence one is grasping at straws) and so what if someone uses an AR or AK. If that was a problem why did Saiga make a sporter version of the AK? Honestly he's a t*@t and right now he needs reminding of what he is.

Technology marches on Mike, get over it. Anyway he's on the ropes by the looks. Just keep pushing until he crys uncle.
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