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Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:57 pm
by Dannywayoflife
Sim G wrote:
meles meles wrote: *looks dubious*

We know it will get to 1,000 yards, but will it be accurate at that range, and can it knock the skin off a rice pudding on arrival ?

A 77gn SMK doing 2900fps at the muzzle, is still super sonic at 1000. With a 300yd zero, you'll have about a 377 inch drop.

A .308 driving a 155gn SMK at 2800fps at the muzzle will only be doing 100 fps more at 1000yds than the .223, around 1200fps, eith a 320 inch drop.
Hate to burst your bubble but according to ballistic AE using the proper G7 BC the 77 goes sub sonic well before 1000yds even when launched @2900

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:03 pm
by Sim G
Danny, as mentioned, the figures were representative to the potential of the cartridge, with BCs drawn from manufacturers websites and an boing app....

So in order to maintain "my bubble", do you agree or disagree that as per my original point, that with the right bullet and barrel combination, the .223 Remington can be a 1000 yard cartridge?

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 3:57 pm
by meles meles
and don't forget a following wind...

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:14 pm
by saddler
meles meles wrote:and don't forget a following wind...
Cut back on the root vegetables?

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:15 pm
by Dannywayoflife
Sim absolutely the 223 can be a 1000 cartridge but in order to achieve this it needs to be a highly specialised tool.

I must apologise I hadn't read the whole thread when I posted my last post.

I love the 223 it's a great and versatile cartridge.

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:18 pm
by meles meles
hmm, maybe we ought to have a rifle in that calibre then...

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:22 pm
by Sim G
As you've seen, for a number of reasons it would be a very good choice.

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:48 pm
by meles meles
Ah, but which one? So many choices, though we do like the CZ offerings..

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:49 pm
by saddler
Mossberg MVP

Re: Badger contemplates a 5.56 / .223

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:54 pm
by Sim G
meles meles wrote:Ah, but which one? So many choices, though we do like the CZ offerings..

CZ527 Varmint, Kevlar stock, 1 in 9", set trigger a really good rifle.