'New' firearms transfer/purchase method

[Blackstuff]

A £25 difference tricksie! Which to put it another way is 250% increase between RFD's prices. Would that wash if that was the pricing difference on the guns/ammo they're selling? In some instances its comparatively not a great deal of money, i.e. when you're buying an expensive gun, but if you're wanting to sell a £30 sound moderator or £150 recevier it makes it a pretty much pointless exercise.

The process i was shown was taking the box from the courier, opening the package to check everything was there, booking it onto the RFD's books, signing it off onto the buyers ticket, sending the email notification to the police and a copy being sent to the buyers email address. The exchange of RFD details had already taken place over the phone the day before which was a 2 minute call.

I'm glad i've still got access to a reasonably priced dealer, others aren't so fortunate.

[dromia]

Aye all the stuff that is within your control, if only every transaction was so simple.

Prices are prices, people can charge what they want and people will either pay it or not. If the dealer charging £35 feels that he is loosing out then no doubt he will drop his price but I doubt that charging £10 or £35 will make a difference to either dealers earnings.

I make a loss on doing transfers at my price, I do it as a service to my clients whose custom is important to me, I refuse to do as many transfers as I accept and that is my way of doing it. I don't charge anywhere near £35 but I certainly wouldn't damn another dealer for doing so, that is his business and if it doesn't work for him then he will no doubt change it.

[Chapuis]

There is no extra work for police forces if the transfer goes through RFDs as opposed to a direct face to face.

I assumed Dromia that there would be a need for the police to make entries on the firearms national computer for each and every stage of the transaction.

[dromia]

RFD's only notify the police when the enter a firearm onto an FAC, they don't notify when the take one on as the FAC holder has done that. RFD to RFD transfers are not notified to the police as they are on RFD's registers.

[Chapuis]

A £25 difference tricksie! Which to put it another way is 250% increase between RFD's prices. Would that wash if that was the pricing difference on the guns/ammo they're selling? In some instances its comparatively not a great deal of money, i.e. when you're buying an expensive gun, but if you're wanting to sell a £30 sound moderator or £150 recevier it makes it a pretty much pointless exercise.

The process i was shown was taking the box from the courier, opening the package to check everything was there, booking it onto the RFD's books, signing it off onto the buyers ticket, sending the email notification to the police and a copy being sent to the buyers email address. The exchange of RFD details had already taken place over the phone the day before which was a 2 minute call.

I'm glad i've still got access to a reasonably priced dealer, others aren't so fortunate.

To be honest Mark I dislike buying a gun that I haven't seen for myself so avoid any distance buying, certainly more so in the case of an expensive gun.
I can see exactly where Dromia is coming from and don't think that £35 is out of order for the amount of work involved but at the same time realise that it becomes totally unviable financially with regard to cheaper items so thereby devaluing them further perhaps.

[bigfathairybiker]

What would be nice if the costs were itemised to show the cost of the TNT courier.

So far I've only used RFD transfer once and the sender was and RFD, the gun was new with P&P free, the local RFD charged 15 quid.
And the total cost was less than buying the gun new from another local RFD.

Mark
Btw : nothing heard from BASC yet.

[Chapuis]

I take it that you have seen this then bigfathairybiker? http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/d ... TIONS2.pdf

[Blackstuff]

What would be nice if the costs were itemised to show the cost of the TNT courier.

So far I've only used RFD transfer once and the sender was and RFD, the gun was new with P&P free, the local RFD charged 15 quid.
And the total cost was less than buying the gun new from another local RFD.

Mark
Btw : nothing heard from BASC yet.

£20 for TNT last two guns i had sent away

[Mattnall]

I take it that you have seen this then bigfathairybiker? http://basc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/d ... TIONS2.pdf

Looks like that just about covers it.

[bigfathairybiker]

The document sums it up.

Well, that is sorted then. :)

Pretty damn obvious that with private sales the buyer MUST send their FAC to the seller.

Not that I would ever use an RFD to do a private transfer. I much prefer to always do a face to face deal as you never know if there is going to be the niggling little thing that you didnt spot in photos or wot not.

Mark