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rox wrote:

Gaz wrote:I hate to say this, as a TR shooter, but Dromia's right.

Nope. He said "if you want to compete at the top in <snip> TR etc then you will need to join the arms race". This is simply not true. You may see some shiny kit if you look for it, and there may be people who try to buy their way to the top, but perhaps you don't recognise those who are actually there. Take a look at the winter journal covers - Swings, Paramounts, the odd Quadlock, most in basic wooden stocks (apart from the one or two colonials). Most of the winners' rifles couldn't have been bought new in the last 15 or 20 years! How is this an arms race?

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But those rifles really do hold their value over time. Try and pick up a Quadlock or a Paramount for under a grand. If you do, I guarantee it'll come without essential items like sights, handstops etc.

Alpha1 wrote:£65 a kilo for powder is not cheap if you don't have a spare £65 to spend.
I reckon I will need 2 Kg of N140 2 Kg of N160 and 1Kg of 110 this year and maybe some 2400 or unique just for starters. I run my .308 and 6.55 on Hornady A max bullets god knows how much they are now. I need to aquire new brass for both of these rifles I would like to use Lapau not cheap.
I run my Millitary rifles on PPU brass and bullets.
It all adds up.

Dave,
You really need to shop around. You are far too insular!
There are deals to be had if you ask around!

Gaz wrote:

rox wrote:

Gaz wrote:I hate to say this, as a TR shooter, but Dromia's right.

Nope. He said "if you want to compete at the top in <snip> TR etc then you will need to join the arms race". This is simply not true. You may see some shiny kit if you look for it, and there may be people who try to buy their way to the top, but perhaps you don't recognise those who are actually there. Take a look at the winter journal covers - Swings, Paramounts, the odd Quadlock, most in basic wooden stocks (apart from the one or two colonials). Most of the winners' rifles couldn't have been bought new in the last 15 or 20 years! How is this an arms race?

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But those rifles really do hold their value over time. Try and pick up a Quadlock or a Paramount for under a grand. If you do, I guarantee it'll come without essential items like sights, handstops etc.

What has this got to do with an 'arms race'? You mean an arms race where the technology has stood still for 30 years? so actually a sort of 'arms stand-still' then.

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Once you've bought the basic kit, I think shooting is a relatively cheap hobby.

I'll go to the range at 10.00am tomorrow, shoot the 500 yard F Class comp with 30 odd other shooters, break for lunch, do butt duty in the afternoon, finish around 3.00pm, have a good natter with the lads over several cups of tea then go home.

That's a full day of fun for 22 rounds of ammo - £12? What would it have cost me to go to a football match and just sit WATCHING somebody pursue their sport?

Yes - IF YOU CHOOSE you can shoot F Class with the GB League - the equipment cost will be the same - but you'll shoot more rounds and then there's the traveling, hotels etc.

It's your choice what you do with your money. There are plenty of shooters with expensive cars and crap rifles - their choice.

Hmm, for £12 we'd be popping off 42 rounds of our favourite flavour of ammo (7.62x54R)

A full day firing 22 rounds? I think we go shooting for different things ;-)

We typically shoot 100 - 150 rounds in a half day's shooting.



Occasionally, we hit something...

I go to Sennybridge and feel hard done by if I haven't fired 3 or 4 rifles and at least 400 rounds!

mag41uk wrote: feel hard done by if I haven't fired 3 or 4 rifles and at least 400 rounds!

Concur!

mag41uk wrote:I go to Sennybridge and feel hard done by if I haven't fired 3 or 4 rifles and at least 400 rounds!

Going to Sennybridge G range, what memories! I have used 6 rifles and nearly 500 rounds of ammo in a half a day, I was battered!

I have a video of me doing 100-120 yard snaps with my No.4, if I recall 15 rounds I a minute, 14/15 hit