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christel wrote:Just pointing out that never mind the antis if we as shooters of different disciplines can't even stand united.

Exactly Christel :)

All shooters of all sorts and varieties, be they firearms, airarms, airsofters, paintballers. all will go the same way if none stand together.

Afternoon peeps,

Well thats another hornets nest stirred !
Just a pity that the use of an available free medium to publicise our case gets folk so stirred up.
Next time I'll keep it to myself :55:


ttfn
the greek

simong wrote:Afternoon peeps,

Well thats another hornets nest stirred !
Just a pity that the use of an available free medium to publicise our case gets folk so stirred up.
Next time I'll keep it to myself :55:


ttfn
the greek

Don't keep it to yourself. We as a community of like minded enthusiasts need to stand up for what we feel is right.

Well at least it got the article out to the members of our club, most of whom probably don't get onto any forums/chat rooms. It also got a few positive comments from folk who look at my farce book page ( no I don't have 1000's of "friends" just folk who I actually know and for various reasons don't get to see/speak to very often ).
I do agree with Dromia in as much as there are some folk who post such as " got up and had a cup of tea " or " just cut my toenails" and you have to wonder why ?? but live and let live.

I will keep on posting stuff that I think needs to be spread out to a wider audience in the hope that maybe it may help. The alternative is to curl up and accept a negative outcome.

Rant over, off to see about the EU olive mountain and the humous swamp mmmmm……


ttfn
the greek

As an aside to the digital media discussion (as you can probably guess, I'm all in favour of it - for good or for ill, that's where people turn for information and opinion about the world around them today), not only was Chf Con Marsh of Hampshire unimpressed by my article - he wrote a rebuttal. http://www.acpo.presscentre.com/Press-R ... s-278.aspx

Just a slight correction there, not all people use it.

No-one in my circle of close friends and relatives use it or subscribe to it, I don't doubt that large swathes of the populace use it but it by no means universal.

Also I am not against those that want to putting the message over on such mechanisms good luck to them/you, my point is that reasoned argument is beyond most peoples intellect and thus is lost on most users of such media.

Anything that supports shooting is good in my book. I just think that some of you have more faith in the populaces ability to think rather than be told what to think than my experience shows me. That I am afraid gives us all problems way beyond the fire arms licensing issue.

dromia wrote:I just think that some of you have more faith in the populaces ability to think rather than be told what to think than my experience shows me. That I am afraid gives us all problems way beyond the fire arms licensing issue.

Not if we put ourselves out there and actively tell people that shooting is a good thing and to be encouraged...

Myself and many others have been doing that a lot longer than you have laddie, fighting for shooters rights is not something that has just come along with you getting into shooting or with the advent of arsebook.

It is an upward struggle but not one to be given up on if we value our shooting and if your digital efforts make the difference then that would be what we all want.

I've explained where i think the problem lies, not in the medium itself but in the populaces stupidity which the media panders to, feeds and encourages.

I've explained where i think the problem lies, not in the medium itself but in the populaces stupidity which the media panders to, feeds and encourages.

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ACPO does not seek to lobby Government and that does not form part of its remit.

:cool2: Aye right!

dromia wrote:No-one in my circle of close friends and relatives use it or subscribe to it, I don't doubt that large swathes of the populace use it but it by no means universal.

500 Million people actively use Twitter. Half a billion. 200 Million daily users.

UK users: 12 Million. Twelve Million. A fifth of the population.

...my point is that reasoned argument is beyond most peoples intellect and thus is lost on most users of such media.

How can you say that when you don't use it?

Subscribing to people's content was mentioned earlier. That's a barrier on its own; especially on Facebook but with Twitter you can search for the misinformed using keyphrases (e.g. "guns should be banned") and at least put your POV across to them. They can then block you of course but by then you've sown the seed in their mind.

I introduced another two people to shooting in the last 24hrs alone. How many did you? I could have written them a letter I suppose but how would I know?...