The UK's Finest Independent Forum for Shooters and Gun Owners. Est 2010.

NoEntry wrote:Interesting facts from the Govt

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... rmoffences

worth a read

"In 2012 to 2013, there were three homicides in which the firearm that was used was known to be licensed. T"

As they do not got into details these may actually be suicides. And by firearms they may have meant shotguns.

Even though I'm not even a gun owner yet, I've done my bit, completed the survey and written to my MP. Has to be done otherwise there wont be much of shooting sport to join by the time I get there. :(

I see there was a short seige with 2 hostages at a bowling alley in Nuneaton.
Thankfully no one was injured.

For me it is easier to make a case against shotguns....

I would urge all FAC and SGC to submit a response to this consultation.
Even if to say you are in favour....
But please don't be apathetic about it.

This from the firearm blog:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... Newsletter

Dark Skies wrote:

NoEntry wrote:Interesting facts from the Govt

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transpar ... rmoffences

worth a read

"In 2012 to 2013, there were three homicides in which the firearm that was used was known to be licensed. T"

As they do not got into details these may actually be suicides. And by firearms they may have meant shotguns.

I got my FoI response back today- The answer was hardly surprising.

Dear sir/madam

Could you please send me details (by email) of recorded unlawful use of .50 calibre, lever release, manually actuated release and straight pull rifles in the United Kingdom, in the last 20 years?
King regards -----

Dear Mr -----,
Thank you for your e-mail on 4 October 2017, in which you ask for details of
recorded unlawful use of .50 calibre, lever release, manually actuated release and
straight pull rifles in the United Kingdom, in the last 20 years.
Your request has been handled as a request for information under the Freedom of
Information Act 2000.
The Home Office does not hold information on the calibre or mechanism of firearm
used in offences involving firearms.
Information on offences involving firearms that the Home Office does hold was
published in the ‘Focus on Violent Crime and Sexual Offences’ statistical bulletin.
Data can be found in the Appendix tables in the link below:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/people ... ustice/dat
asets/appendixtablesfocusonviolentcrimeandsexualoffences/yearendingmarch2016/f
ovappendixtables.xls
If you are dissatisfied with this response you may request an independent internal
review of our handling of your request by submitting a complaint within two months
to the address below, quoting reference 45643. If you ask for an internal review, it
would be helpful if you could say why you are dissatisfied with the response.
Information Rights Team
Home Office
Third Floor, Peel Building
2 Marsham Street
London SW1P 4DF
e-mail: foirequests@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk
As part of any internal review the Department's handling of your information request
will be reassessed by staff who were not involved in providing you with this
response. If you remain dissatisfied after this internal review, you would have a right
of complaint to the Information Commissioner as established by section 50 of the
Freedom of Information Act.

Full correct url for the data is:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/people ... tables.xls

Brian838 wrote: "The Home Office does not hold information on the calibre or mechanism of firearm
used in offences involving firearms."

That piece of information is interesting in itself. They don't hold the information, hence they have no evidence to suggest any one calibre or type of firearm is any more likely to be a danger to the public or used in crime, than any other.

daman wrote:Full correct url for the data is:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/people ... tables.xls

What on earth is a 'Non-air weapon'?

Interesting to see in table 3.11 that > 60% of all firearms used in burglary in every year for the past 14 have been handguns. Those pesky criminals, using illegal firearms!

Brian838 wrote:

daman wrote:Full correct url for the data is:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/people ... tables.xls

What on earth is a 'Non-air weapon'?

I would assume that it is a weapon that will function in non-air, i.e. space. As such, I would say it is safe to assume they are referring to moon based laser cannon.